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    How did zeus, a machine that is CONSTRUCTED and made my intelligence able to kill sefar if sefar is supposed to be immune to all that, and dont give me brute force as that means literally any machine that utilizes natural forces could hurt sefar

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    Quote Originally Posted by Byegod View Post
    How did zeus, a machine that is CONSTRUCTED and made my intelligence able to kill sefar if sefar is supposed to be immune to all that, and dont give me brute force as that means literally any machine that utilizes natural forces could hurt sefar
    Are machines not allowed to blow shit up now? Might as well complain about Excalibur beating Sefar since it was made by faires (who are intelligent lifeforms).

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    Quote Originally Posted by AAM1232 View Post
    Are machines not allowed to blow shit up now? Might as well complain about Excalibur beating Sefar since it was made by faires (who are intelligent lifeforms).
    I mean yeah I have complained about that as well, neither make sense by the logic of the ability
    Last edited by Byegod; July 16th, 2021 at 03:08 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Byegod View Post
    I mean yeah I have complained about that as well, neither make sense by the logic of the ability
    Basically you need to blow up Sefar, what's there that is nonsensical? Zeus assimilated other Olympians for the powerup, and Excalibur is just an energy amplifier.

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    You can't have a special technique against Sefar you just need to hit her with big beamus. That's why Giga Olympus Breaker and Excalibur both worked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reign View Post
    You can't have a special technique against Sefar you just need to hit her with big beamus. That's why Giga Olympus Breaker and Excalibur both worked.
    Except things of intelligence where also included like technology, lemme quote it

    "To an Anti Cell, there is no better form of nourishment. Any form of attack (interference) designed by intellect - however undeveloped the theory behind it may be - will only grant more power to Altera. The large firepower of greater magecraft and strategic weapons of science and technology will fuel the fire further. On the other hand, while pure magical energy - what can be called life-force itself - will also be mostly absorbed," -from tm wiki so YMMV but still

    If big beamu was enough then why did anyone have any trouble since it seems every 2nd ability is a big fucking beam, why wouldnt a nuke work on this by this standard?

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    Because she's strong and has the ability to absorb energy (Mana Absorption) to offset some of the damage that can be done by such attacks. I don't get what is so puzzling about all this, do you think Sefar is weak?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AAM1232 View Post
    Because she's strong and has the ability to absorb energy (Mana Absorption) to offset some of the damage that can be done by such attacks. I don't get what is so puzzling about all this, do you think Sefar is weak?
    No what im asking is what are the nonsensicle conditions for its ability, since "no matter how simple" implies that even a basic tech would be blocked yet excalibur which is a amplifier and made by beings of intelligence bypasses this,

    I mean the meta reason is to wank exalibur but it still doesnt make sense

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    Quote Originally Posted by Byegod View Post
    No what im asking is what are the nonsensicle conditions for its ability, since "no matter how simple" implies that even a basic tech would be blocked yet excalibur which is a amplifier and made by beings of intelligence bypasses this,

    I mean the meta reason is to wank exalibur but it still doesnt make sense
    Excalibur is literally given as the one thing that is strong enough to overcome that ability, in the very same passage that you quoted from. As is the notion of beating Sefar with strong physical attacks, suggesting that such attacks do not meet the requirements for it to work.

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    Thank you

    Quote Originally Posted by aldeayeah View Post
    Nope, Cruor... Godo is vanilla human, Last Seed. Liners were modified humans that could survive in the Grain-infused environment. Ether Liners were mutant Liners with cool powers.

    Unless Evo's Notes glossary is wrong which I doubt because I've just checked the original. Ningen=Last-Seed=Godo. Ningenshu=Liner=New mainline humanity. Arei hyakushu=A-Rays=Transhumanity. Technically ningenshu belongs to the last category too, but neither side seems to accept it.
    Translating became easier with this clue. FGO Lostbelt 6 Chapter 15 Arrow 6 Woodwaz 亜鈴百種・排熱大公

    You have my thanks.

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    Well just finished HF true, and just in time for the movie rerun as well. I have some lingering questions, naturally, but I'll save them for when I do full completionist and get HF normal and all the bad endings. However, there's just one thing that sorta stuck out at the end. It's nothing big, but I was curious as to why there were apparently shampoo bottles all around Tohsaka's house. I thought there might have been some innuendo laden implications, but even with that frame of reference I'm drawing a blank. Again, this isn't really that relevant but I thought I might as well ask while it's still in my memory.

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    sakura runs a soapland
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    canon finish apo vol 3

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rafflesiac View Post
    sakura runs a soapland
    Insert “educated prostitute” joke here

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    This question hurts me to ask I saw someone say on Tumblr without providing a source that the conversation re: Servants getting pregnant in Apocrypha (e.g. that they need physical bodies) also stated that a male Servant with a physical body wouldn't be able to impregnate women (e.g. only female Servants with physical bodies can have kids)

    Is that like, true?

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    If they're incarnated I don't see why they couldn't perform all bodily functions.
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    canon finish apo vol 3

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    That should be the case, and I absolutely do not believe in Tumblr rando, but this bit in Volume 3 of Apoc not being TLed means I can't authoritatively say otherwise so I figured I'd check

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rafflesiac View Post
    If they're incarnated I don't see why they couldn't perform all bodily functions.
    So that [You] can knock up your harem of historical waifus, but there’s no chance of the male Servants being [Your] competition

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    We know incarnated female Servants can get pregnant (Erice's mom) so I see no reason to think incarnated males can't make others pregnant.

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    Wait, that's Erice's deal? I need to read Requiem.
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    Really, all 3 of the romances in F/SN are 'for want of a nail' kind of situations.
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    You mean because Shirou winds up falling for the first of the three that he Nailed?
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    yeah her mom was a servant
    Heavily implied Izanami since her mom is called Nami and she uses Izanami's spear in GO
    Granted we don't know all the details about how it happened, it's just briefly mentioned in volume 2

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