Not necessarily- it says complete deathlessness doesn't exist, but some of our heroes already come pretty damn close. Karna's 90% damage reduction armour- Ninety percent- is a B rank. Armour that's completely impenetrable could be an A, you'd have to hit them somewhere the armour doesn't cover, or remove the armour first, or trump it with a weapon that doesn't interact with armour.
Hell, we saw something like that even in Fate- flashback to Saber bashing Gil everywhere she could reach, but wasn't able to get through his armour.
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vasavi shakti being specifically mentioned as ~special and not in GoB~ is a bit dumb though since GoB isn't supposed to have those specific NPs anyway, just their originals
so are we saying there are no beam-spears in GoB? or no anti-divine spears? or specifically just not VS itself or its direct prototype that would counter it?
I think the point was that it's a god-made spear.
The idea is that Gil has all the original human made things, just not Divine Constructs and so on.
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What isnt stupid and headache inducing at this point? That explanation doesnt make much sense to me since it would be even more ridiculous to assume the same events happend up to and beyond rin able to save shirou from lancer, yet assuming archer does not appear despite the same exact conditions existing for archer to be summonedl.
Especially since seeing archer doesnt really matter much to shirous end goal(for fate route its saving arturias heart, not aRcher). He can be told to his face who archer is but hes still going to attempt the same things and perhaps go through the same experiences. Its what around all that stuff which mattter to his decisions later on in life.
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This would make sense to me if that was the only thing God Hand did. I'm fine with eg. Armor of Fafnir being B-rank. But the other stuff it does on top of that (12 x revive + adaptive resistance), and the way all the different components synergize with each other, makes the overall performance of the NP considerably better than that.
Well, E-rank and D-rank NPs are super rare compared to the other ranks. In Stay Night, Hollow and Zero combined, the two lowest ranking NPs are Verg Avesta and Breaker Gorgon (D and C- respectively), and everything else is C-rank or better. So even though in theory the scale goes all the way down to E, and B is the second best rank out of five, in actuality it feels more like C-rank is for weak NPs, A-rank is for strong ones, and B-rank is for mediocre ones.
Also, I can't find it right now, but I'm pretty sure Nasu said in one of the Comptiq Q&As that an "average Noble Phantasm" would be B-rank.
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Some NPs cannot really be adequately measured in numbers. God Hand is one of them.
The numbers are 11 and B.
Karna's armor is A though?
I think I was misunderstanding what you were saying regardless. I was reading it as you specifically talking about a burden of the body that is "can't get hurt by anything no matter what" cause of your "Baldr sans mistletoe" example, like no loopholes, no ways around it, no bullshit. If someone like that existed, they would be completely deathless, but if I misunderstood what you were saying then that's a moot point.
If it's just "they have an armament that's absolute", then I'd think the most direct example we have of "a defense that's completely impenetrable" would just be, like, good old Avalon, though you can argue that's more like being a dodge tank than having a high defense. Something that absolute doesn't strike me as "just" A, especially since we do have an A rank super defensive conceptual "block all your stuff" NP in Karna's armor, as you brought up, and it's not at 100%.