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[Byegod]

Kháos, in this case, is reworked to be a distant alien dyson sphere that sent out fleets of terraforming ships - first the Titans, then the Olympians. It's a sci-fi take on Hesiod's theogony, basically.

It's all seems very inspired by Mazinger.

I know that, but what im saying is that khaos never visited earth and they mention there authorities derive from him

[AAM1232]

I mean functions from his ship becoming authorities isn't that farfetched.

[fumei]

I know that, but what im saying is that khaos never visited earth and they mention there authorities derive from him

I'm not sure I understand what you're getting at here. Chaos was the mothership from which every other ship was derived, ergo their authorities are also derived of him.

[Byegod]

I'm not sure I understand what you're getting at here. Chaos was the mothership from which every other ship was derived, ergo their authorities are also derived of him.

Ah, i was wondering if he has all there authorities, which of itself would imply authorities are not earth bound

[fumei]

Ah, i was wondering if he has all there authorities, which of itself would imply authorities are not earth bound

それぞれの神の権能を『星間航行に必要な機能・役周り』にあてこんだ設定は流石の外連味。
A setting wherein each god's authority correlates to "necessary functions and roles for interstellar travel" was a great idea.

So it's like, they have authorities but those authorities are actually just their ship functions, which just happen to be authorities, so it's not like they have them because they are gods now.

Authorities are special abilities that fall into a different category than Codecasts, Skills, and Noble Phantasms.
An Authority is a power that is on the level of creating a world, and includes things like altering events, time-flow manipulation, and kingdom building.

Also this, so there was never really anything that said authorities could only appear on earth, they're just their own category of power.

[Mementore]

Sorry, can I bother you with a question?
Well, someone told me that Nasu said that types were far above anything we had seen till now at the time of Extra, I was wondering if it was just made up or if Nasu really said it somewhere.

[Ratman]

Aside of calling them the strongest organism of their planet and the demonstration of them being evangelionesque apocalyptic monsters you get in Notes, up to and including nuking an entire continent, he literally made an impromptu tierliest that had them at the top behind Void Shiki.

That said, until Olympus, the last time Types were mentioned was Melty Blood, and that's just talking about hime who isn't even a real Type. There's really no point of comparsion of the little bit we get in Notes to the ridiculous marvel cinematic universe bullshit that goes on in FGO, especially Beasts or Grand Servants, who are only newly explored in detail. And much more detail than Types, too.

Also, the Type that really matters got beaten by Kaleidoscope, so the precedent is that you can't arm wrestle them head on but need instead some sort of severe bullshit like the Black Barrel. At their area of sheer presence, powerlevels mean nothing. It's like asking if Aoko can beat an earthquake, and whether an earthquake could beat a blizzard, and how either of them do against an avalanche.

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Basically, do not be surprised if they're retconned into something totally different. The term 'Type' as well does not seem to be used anymore. In fact, it seems the term is exclusive to Notes themselves.

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Though, I guess 'Archetype-Earth' is an obvious nod.

[Mementore]

Ok, I think I'll be prepared for a retcon and hope for the best. In fact, there is the possibility that ORT will become Tetzatlipoca.

[Ratman]

That's Mexico, not Brazil. So would be Mayan calendar memes.

That said, 'Ultimate one of the Oort Cloud' and mesoamerican mythology suggests to me that it's the Ultimate One of Nibiru/Planet X/Planet Ten/Tuche/what have you.

[Comun]

That's Mexico, not Brazil.

This franchise has yet to provide any implication that Nasu knows the difference.

[Kamera]

Worse, he knows they're different, and is intentionally conflating them because lol irrelevant continent

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That's Mexico, not Brazil. So would be Mayan calendar memes.

That said, 'Ultimate one of the Oort Cloud' and mesoamerican mythology suggests to me that it's the Ultimate One of Nibiru/Planet X/Planet Ten/Tuche/what have you.

my theory is that is might have somethung to do with this
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scholz's_Star
A binary star system that once grazed through the Oort Cloud

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or maybe this one idk
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nemesi...thetical_star)

[Menwearpink]

Types are the big emissary of a planet’s will. Their place in the system is similar to Arcueid, even if the brain of the planet isn’t quite a type.

They’re the strongest because the planet is the strongest and everything is just part of the system of the planet. Similar to how the shadow held power over servants because servants were part of the system of the grail Arcueid can beat up pretty much most things and be stronger in that regard too.

Beyond that it’s also a matter of planets are super strong except they just don’t do things yeah. Archetype in Melty and so on.

we have stuff like Arcueid nerfed as she is having a chance against Amaterasu in Extra stuff. But in Extra the planet is in a super bad shape + gods are stronger than they usually are because of the information world.

To put it simply planets are strong and nothing we see from Beasts really makes them spookier than them? I would say they likely are still the top of the power tiers as silly as power tiers kind of are.

Bring Angra Mainyu CCC if you want to compete with them I guess.

[Leftovers]

That said, 'Ultimate one of the Oort Cloud' and mesoamerican mythology suggests to me that it's the Ultimate One of Nibiru/Planet X/Planet Ten/Tuche/what have you.

[Kamera]

Types are the big emissary of a planet’s will. Their place in the system is similar to Arcueid, even if the brain of the planet isn’t quite a type.

They’re the strongest because the planet is the strongest and everything is just part of the system of the planet. Similar to how the shadow held power over servants because servants were part of the system of the grail Arcueid can beat up pretty much most things and be stronger in that regard too.

Beyond that it’s also a matter of planets are super strong except they just don’t do things yeah. Archetype in Melty and so on.

we have stuff like Arcueid nerfed as she is having a chance against Amaterasu in Extra stuff. But in Extra the planet is in a super bad shape + gods are stronger than they usually are because of the information world.

To put it simply planets are strong and nothing we see from Beasts really makes them spookier than them? I would say they likely are still the top of the power tiers as silly as power tiers kind of are.

Bring Angra Mainyu CCC if you want to compete with them I guess.

Planets are impressive and all, but you know what's more awesome? A Star. So what's stronger than an Ultimate One of the Planet? How about Ultimate One of the Sun?

[Comun]

Are you intentionally steering this towards Tamamo or just accidentally?

[Reign]

If ORT is actually from the Oort Cloud it begs the question of what the true Type Mercury is.

Come to think of it I don't think Mercury, ORT or otherwise, was even mentioned in Notes.

[Kamera]

Are you intentionally steering this towards Tamamo or just accidentally?

Mayhaps. Reminder that Tezcatlipoca is a sun too. I wonder if different sun deities actually come from different stars.

[Dullahan]

if it's called ORT because it's from the Oort Cloud then why isn't Brunestud called Mun or some shit

[Rafflesiac]

it's not called ort because it's from oort, it's called ort because it's the oort reclusive traveler.

[Dullahan]

i liked it better as a cryptic initialism tee bee queue aitch desu