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    Hey, ours at least doesn't become some random vampire's pet!
    Ragnarok, come day of wrath
    That fallen souls might bear our plea.
    To hasten the Divine's return.
    O piteous Wanderer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Siriel View Post
    Hey, ours at least doesn't become some random vampire's pet!
    Or really self-destructive moon monsters!

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    Crimson Moon wasn't from Earth. He was just a hired gun.
    Ragnarok, come day of wrath
    That fallen souls might bear our plea.
    To hasten the Divine's return.
    O piteous Wanderer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Siriel View Post
    Crimson Moon wasn't from Earth. He was just a hired gun.
    I was refferring to the TA's but sure.

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    Remember guys, CG =/= CF

    The Counter Force is "lol-lets-empower-puny-humans-to-kill-this"

    The Counter Guardians is "Fuckfuckthatdidn'tworkkilleverything"

    That said, I believe Nasu's official answer was 'eh, maybe lol'

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    A bit late with this, but I'm pretty sure Ag was asking about the "CF empowers or compells person A to save the world" thing or whatever that was, rather than "CF directly summons guardians", which is what it looks like you guys are talking about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dullahan View Post
    there aren't enough gun emojis in the thousandfold trichiliocosm for this shit


    Linger: Complete. August, 1995. I met him. A branch off Part 3. Mikiya keeps his promise to meet Azaka, and meets again with that mysterious girl he once found in the rain.
    Shinkai: Set in the Edo period. DHO-centric. As mysterious figures gather in the city, a young woman unearths the dark secrets of the Asakami family.
    The Dollkeeper: A Fate side-story. The memoirs of the last tuner of the Einzberns. A record of the end of a family.
    Overcount 2030: Extra x Notes. A girl with no memories is found by a nameless soldier, and wakes up to a world of war.

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    Quote Originally Posted by forumghost View Post
    That said, I believe Nasu's official answer was 'eh, maybe lol'
    It was more that it's a circular argument because how can you figure out if the collective unconscious acted on the unconscious of a character who is part of that collective.

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    So more "I dunno lol how could you tell".
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    O piteous Wanderer.

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    I thought that the CG would only pop up once humanity started noticing that a tenth of the population mysteriously disappeared...

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    CGs only pop up when humanity can't solve the issue on their own.

    Basically, if there's nobody left at ground zero to hit the STOP NANOMACHINE LEAK button, they're there, and they're going to wipe the damn thing out.

    And probably the country around it, just in case.
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    Black Death must've been a very confusing time for the Counter-Guardians.

    It's hard to kill Viruses with pointy swords

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    That depends on the size, quantity, and explosiveness of said swords.

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    Wait, I thought the CF only fought disasters caused by other humans?
    Quote Originally Posted by Dullahan View Post
    there aren't enough gun emojis in the thousandfold trichiliocosm for this shit


    Linger: Complete. August, 1995. I met him. A branch off Part 3. Mikiya keeps his promise to meet Azaka, and meets again with that mysterious girl he once found in the rain.
    Shinkai: Set in the Edo period. DHO-centric. As mysterious figures gather in the city, a young woman unearths the dark secrets of the Asakami family.
    The Dollkeeper: A Fate side-story. The memoirs of the last tuner of the Einzberns. A record of the end of a family.
    Overcount 2030: Extra x Notes. A girl with no memories is found by a nameless soldier, and wakes up to a world of war.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirby View Post
    Wait, I thought the CF only fought disasters caused by other humans?
    Pretty sure it just takes action against threats to humanity in general
    Insert something about how I'm too busy playing HSR to post here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirby View Post
    Wait, I thought the CF only fought disasters caused by other humans?
    Quote Originally Posted by TheMegas View Post
    Pretty sure it just takes action against threats to humanity in general
    The human counterforce only responds to human-made threats to humanity. That's EMIYA's job.

    The world's counterforce is basically Arcueid and the like, and they do their jobs concerning just about anything else, this hasn't been made clear as far as I know.
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    The Counter Force here is the safety device formed by the collective unconsciousness.
    The prayer to avert the demise of mankind, Alaya.
    And the prayer to extend the life of the planet, Gaia.
    These are the two aspect of the Counter Force.
    Both aspects have the goal of extending the existence of the current World. They will eradicate the factors that threaten to destroy the World at the moment of their occurance.

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    Also, the World's CF is really bad at it's job, so we should all be thankful that it's only humanity that threatens to kill everything normally.

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    What if a meteor threatening a new ice age and the death of humanity appears in collision to earth?

    Are both Counter Forces just watch it happen as Gaia will survive another Ice Age and the Meteor is not something manmade for Alaya to move his ass?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arashi_Leonhart View Post
    The Counter Force here is the safety device formed by the collective unconsciousness.
    The prayer to avert the demise of mankind, Alaya.
    And the prayer to extend the life of the planet, Gaia.
    These are the two aspect of the Counter Force.
    Both aspects have the goal of extending the existence of the current World. They will eradicate the factors that threaten to destroy the World at the moment of their occurance.
    So it's more about who's being saved and less about what from then?

    Cause that's the impression I'd been under.
    Insert something about how I'm too busy playing HSR to post here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JetKinen View Post
    What if a meteor threatening a new ice age and the death of humanity appears in collision to earth?
    "Can't do shit about it, derp. Somebody call Zelretch."
    Ragnarok, come day of wrath
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    O piteous Wanderer.

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    Human CF can't save humanity from nonhuman threats because, y'know, it's humanity's subconscious. How the hell would it know about a threat if there isn't someone going "golly, a threat!"
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