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    Quote Originally Posted by Marmadillo View Post
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    He's just putting the bone of his sword into other people until it explodes and lets out parts of him inside them.
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    Genderswaps are terrible, but I think I and other people would hate them less if Fate didn't keep ignoring actual heroines throughout history and folklore. Like, why bother turning Francis Drake into a woman when Ching Shih and Grace O'Malley exist?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Asunder View Post
    And calling EMIYA a stereotypical anything is kinda hilarious.
    The Archer class is characteristic of those who have low stats but good skills and strong projectile NPs.
    Are you saying EMIYA doesn't completely fit that bill?
    Though abandoned, forgotten, and scorned as out-of-date dolls, they continue to carry out their mission, unchanged from the time they were designed.
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    Their worth (life) ends when humans can no longer bear that purity.
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    If you can consistently fight with high level servants even when they're unimpeded and in a field that not even your specialty then you're sure as hell not low level. Your stats may be low but clearly your have the abilities to make up for it.

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    The Archer class is characteristic of those who have low stats but good skills and strong projectile NPs.
    Are you saying EMIYA doesn't completely fit that bill?
    Archers also fight using archery.
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    Quote Originally Posted by asterism42 View Post
    IYKWIM
    he showed shirou his reality marble and shirou took it as his own

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    Quote Originally Posted by Asunder View Post
    Archers also fight using archery.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jnCDIMfirw8&t=7m12s
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    He's just putting the bone of his sword into other people until it explodes and lets out parts of him inside them.
    Quote Originally Posted by AvengerEmiya View Post
    Genderswaps are terrible, but I think I and other people would hate them less if Fate didn't keep ignoring actual heroines throughout history and folklore. Like, why bother turning Francis Drake into a woman when Ching Shih and Grace O'Malley exist?
    Quote Originally Posted by Five_X View Post
    Fate Zero is just Fate Stay Night for people who think Shirou is too girly

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    Quote Originally Posted by Asunder View Post
    What sometimes? When in FSN did EMIYA have circumstances better his fights with servants? When he had to fight Cu in close range twice? What he had to fight Hercules in close combat without a master? Even his big fight with Shirou that he was aiming for the entire route was only because Saber and Cu didn't want to interfere.
    I don't get what you're saying here
    Though abandoned, forgotten, and scorned as out-of-date dolls, they continue to carry out their mission, unchanged from the time they were designed.
    Machines do not lose their worth when a newer model appears.
    Their worth (life) ends when humans can no longer bear that purity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by You View Post
    I don't get what you're saying here
    You said that EMIYA can 'sometimes contend' as if FSN isn't filled with EMIYA fighting high level servants in disadvantageous circumstances.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Asunder View Post
    If you can consistently fight with high level servants even when they're unimpeded and in a field that not even your specialty then you're sure as hell not low level. Your stats may be low but clearly your have the abilities to make up for it.
    That just means you're not low level at fighting. You're talking about being a "high level Servant."
    Which he is explicitly is not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Asunder View Post
    Archers also fight using archery.
    Not all Archers are archers. The qualifying basis definitely isn't owning a bow.
    As shown by many Archers in the series who aren't bowmen or bow-women.
    Though abandoned, forgotten, and scorned as out-of-date dolls, they continue to carry out their mission, unchanged from the time they were designed.
    Machines do not lose their worth when a newer model appears.
    Their worth (life) ends when humans can no longer bear that purity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by You View Post
    That just means you're not low level at fighting. You're talking about being a "high level Servant."
    Which he is explicitly is not.
    When you talk about High Level are you talking purely about stats? Because that's the only metric by which EMIYA is not high level.

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    Quote Originally Posted by You View Post
    Not all Archers are archers. The qualifying basis definitely isn't owning a bow.
    As shown by many Archers in the series who aren't bowmen or bow-women.
    The Archer who fights the closest to EMIYA is Chiron and he gets his shoulder cut open the moment he fights another knight class in melee.
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    Hello.

    I've been lurking for quite a while now, reading silently all the interesting conversations going on so far. Except this one, can you please stop beating about the bush and dodge any argument supported by evidences? You keep bringing up your fantasy and completly ignore what other people say to you.

    The gay pics were the most entertaining thing going on in this discussion.

    For God's sake can you stop ? Thank you.

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    For God's sake can you stop ? Thank you.
    It will never stop, new person. Flee! Flee while you still can!
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    He's just putting the bone of his sword into other people until it explodes and lets out parts of him inside them.
    Quote Originally Posted by AvengerEmiya View Post
    Genderswaps are terrible, but I think I and other people would hate them less if Fate didn't keep ignoring actual heroines throughout history and folklore. Like, why bother turning Francis Drake into a woman when Ching Shih and Grace O'Malley exist?
    Quote Originally Posted by Five_X View Post
    Fate Zero is just Fate Stay Night for people who think Shirou is too girly

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    It's painful to watch this thread being active for the wrong reasons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kateikyo View Post
    Hello.

    I've been lurking for quite a while now, reading silently all the interesting conversations going on so far. Except this one, can you please stop beating about the bush and dodge any argument supported by evidences? You keep bringing up your fantasy and completly ignore what other people say to you.

    The gay pics were the most entertaining thing going on in this discussion.

    For God's sake can you stop ? Thank you.
    Are you talking to me? Because I've given more cites in this than anyone here and I try to answer every point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daiki View Post
    It's painful to watch this thread being active for the wrong reasons.
    Gay porn is never a wrong reason
    Quote Originally Posted by Sandstorm77 View Post
    He's just putting the bone of his sword into other people until it explodes and lets out parts of him inside them.
    Quote Originally Posted by AvengerEmiya View Post
    Genderswaps are terrible, but I think I and other people would hate them less if Fate didn't keep ignoring actual heroines throughout history and folklore. Like, why bother turning Francis Drake into a woman when Ching Shih and Grace O'Malley exist?
    Quote Originally Posted by Five_X View Post
    Fate Zero is just Fate Stay Night for people who think Shirou is too girly

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    Fame, age, mystery...
    So now the vile truth comes out. You guys are just prejudiced against Counter Guardians. I thought we had move on past that kind of bigotry but I guess I was wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Asunder View Post
    When you talk about High Level are you talking purely about stats? Because that's the only metric by which EMIYA is not high level.
    "There is a change in one or two of the classes every Holy Grail War, but we have a basic lineup this time. The standard opinion is that Saber is the best Servant.
    Each class has their own special characteristics, but the abilities of the Servants differ according to the rank of the heroic spirit summoned."

    "Rank of the heroic spirits… you mean how strong they were when they were alive?"
    What they did and what weapons they had do not change, but their basic abilities change depending on how famous they are in this time.
    Heroic spirits are like gods, so they grow stronger the more people worship them."
    "I guess you can say it solidifies their presence. It's the same as divine spirits falling to the rank of spirits when they lose their faith. Heroes that are forgotten by the people do not have much power.
    But then, even if they are forgotten or unknown, if he was originally a powerful hero, then I think he can keep his powers to some extent."

    "…Then if it's a hero everyone knows, and if their story was extraordinary"
    "They would undoubtedly be a Rank A Servant.
    Berserker might be the strongest in that regard too.
    After all, he is the most famous hero in Greek mythology.
    The heroes from the age of gods have special Noble Phantasms just because of that, and if the hero itself is strong to add to that, there's nothing much we can do."
    ....
    "Right. To be blunt, heroes themselves cannot match powerful spells or mysteries.
    But it's a different story when the Noble Phantasms come in.
    Heroes wielding Noble Phantasms can even defeat spirits of several ranks higher.
    It's because most holy and demonic swords appearing in legends are close to the level of sorcery."
    .
    Though abandoned, forgotten, and scorned as out-of-date dolls, they continue to carry out their mission, unchanged from the time they were designed.
    Machines do not lose their worth when a newer model appears.
    Their worth (life) ends when humans can no longer bear that purity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kateikyo View Post
    Hello.

    I've been lurking for quite a while now, reading silently all the interesting conversations going on so far. Except this one, can you please stop beating about the bush and dodge any argument supported by evidences? You keep bringing up your fantasy and completly ignore what other people say to you.

    The gay pics were the most entertaining thing going on in this discussion.

    For God's sake can you stop ? Thank you.
    legendary post

    Quote Originally Posted by Asunder View Post
    Are you talking to me? Because I've given more cites in this than anyone here and I try to answer every point.
    The subject of EMIYA being TOP TIER has become an abstraction where it doesn't matter what that actually means as long as EMIYA is it. Otherwise EMIYA's capabilities are explicitly described in the quotes You posted.

    Also marm and asterism you did great but it's time to wind down the shitposting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Asunder View Post
    The Archer who fights the closest to EMIYA is Chiron and he gets his shoulder cut open the moment he fights another knight class in melee.
    That has nothing to do with the fact that EMIYA has low stats and a good projectile NP therefore making him characteristic of the Archer class?
    Quote Originally Posted by mcdoc
    A type of Servant that has low basic parameters, but makes up for it with Skills and Noble Phantasms.
    Of course, the Archer in the story was no exception, fighting to the bitter end while freely making use of unknown Noble Phantasms.
    Though abandoned, forgotten, and scorned as out-of-date dolls, they continue to carry out their mission, unchanged from the time they were designed.
    Machines do not lose their worth when a newer model appears.
    Their worth (life) ends when humans can no longer bear that purity.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ticeexcenny
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    Are you trying to say that because EMIYA doesn't have a legend that he can't be high level?
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