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    They don't use Magic Circuits. The example Arcueid gives is that a psychic is like a whole Magic Circuit unto themselves, but that doesn't mean they have them. They probably use some kind of magical energy, but not in the same way you'd think for mages. Ultimately, a psychic enacts the arcane by simple 'action'; they don't need a medium like a Magic Circuits to connect to a bundle of traditions (magecraft foundations), pour a bunch of energy into it, etc. They simply interfere with the world in a different way.

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    Literally built different

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    I thought they were related to Magic Circuits since Mystic Eyes were referred as the oldest magecraft known to human according to Waver. And that it happened because natural mutation occurs in the Magic Circuits around the organ involved with the ability. Oh well.


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    See this:
    Psychic Power [Others]
    Abnormal powers. Functions that normal humans do not possess. A kind of circuitry that leads to what are commonly called paranormal activities.
    Different from magecraft, inborn talents are absolutely necessary for ESP. Those possessing ESP circuits can induce paranormal phenomenons as naturally as breathing. The ESPers themselves take ESP for granted, and treat it as something they simply "can do". They only realise that they are abnormal after others (who can only comprehend "normal") have pointed it out.
    In this story, Asagami Fujino is an ESPer, but since she was tampered with somewhat, her ability falls between ESP and magecraft.
    ESP is normally an incidental occurrence, a sudden mutation limited to one generation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OnesFleetingGlory View Post
    I thought they were related to Magic Circuits since Mystic Eyes were referred as the oldest magecraft known to human according to Waver. And that it happened because natural mutation occurs in the Magic Circuits around the organ involved with the ability. Oh well.
    It is probably more fair to say that magecraft can emulate certain aspects of ESP.

    Truly god-tier ESP cannot be reproduced by magecraft, e.g. Mystic Eyes of Death Perception.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OnesFleetingGlory View Post
    I thought they were related to Magic Circuits since Mystic Eyes were referred as the oldest magecraft known to human according to Waver. And that it happened because natural mutation occurs in the Magic Circuits around the organ involved with the ability. Oh well.
    mystic eyes are different thing to psychic powers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirishima View Post
    Literally built different
    Truly and I guess the implication is that not only do you need to be built different to even manifest them but there must be some sort of supernatural aptitude regarding the host body or they might end up holding an ability that could kill them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fallenhero36 View Post
    mystic eyes are different thing to psychic powers.

    Lol

    Mystic Eyes of Death Perception [Others]
    Ryougi Shiki's ESP. Although it has some characteristics that are similar to the Mystic Eyes in magecraft, it is classified as an ESP.
    Eyes of Direct Death allows the user to perceive the the conceptual "Death of an Existence" as visual signals. Death emerges to the surface of an existence (objects, animals, etc) as lines. Cutting along the lines will result in "Death", regardless of the constitution or properties of the object.
    Ryougi Shiki acquired this power after spending two years in a comatose state and contacted " " (Kara) for a prolonged period of time. Shiki's body already had the ability to perceive the Lines of Death, the accident merely awakened this power.
    Of course, Eyes of Direct Death is only one aspect of the powers of this body called "Ryougi Shiki".
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    Q: Are Ryougi's Mystic Eyes of Death Perception a type of Eyes of Clarity?

    A: Yes. The Ryougis and Nanayas were good friends! (A long time ago)
    Although the two types of eyes are inheritable, if you consider regular Mystic Eyes as traits that modify the body..... something like the inheritance of the traits of the parents' body...... then Eyes of Clarity are the inheritance of fate and destiny......the offspring continues the parents' will and their quest.
    Even though Eyes of Clarity are the parents' karma reflected in the offspring, they can only be inherited by "humans" with high spiritual potential.
    In other words, Mystic Eyes of Death Perception are a type of hybrid power. The cheating powers of both Shikis ought to have a limit!
    This is probably more telling.

    Mages probably have the more "self-modification" type of Mystic Eyes.
    While the natural Mystic Eyes users can have all sorts of Mystic Eyes including those of "inherited karma and destiny".

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    On a more meta level, KnK and to a certain extend Tsukihime are stories about ESPers and monsters, so ESP plays a more prominent role.

    The later stuff are more about mages and shenanigans, so ESP takes a back seat.

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    Actually, here.
    This one from the vintage Side Material really makes this clear.

    Mystic Eyes [Magecraft]
    Typically, single-action sorceries possessed by magi.
    They are created by changing the eyeballs, which by nature are passive receptors of information from the external world, into tools for actively influencing the external world.
    People within the user's field of vision will have sorcery cast on them without question, and should they happen to make direct eye contact the effect will be dramatically increased.
    In short, they are a fearsome sorcery trait – not only are they something that must not be seen, but simply being seen by them means you have fallen into your opponent's trap.
    Because of their conceal ability and capability, they are considered the mark of a first-class magus.
    Though, artificial mystic eyes are limited to effects on the level of charm or suggestion.
    The most powerful mystic eyes are those which are possessed from birth.
    Things like Rider's mystic eyes of petrification, or mystic eyes that can see the death of things, are "psychic abilities" that cannot be reenacted even with sorcery.

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    Good old direct death penetration.
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    Is the capacity of magical energy you can hold at once something you can actively train for? Or just something that naturally increases as you mature?
    Like we see Shirou think that Rin's capacity in a few year will likely be double what it's during the events of UBW. Or how Waver between the events of Fate Zero and Case Files more than tripled his capacity.

    Theory of magic only says that capacity varies by individuals and that excelent mages can store larger amounts.

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    I don't think so, since the amount of Magic Circuits in each individual is fixed. Instead magi could find ways to increase the amount for their descendants, which is why the older the lineage the better among their society's view. I could only guess that there may be dormant, unused parts of their MC that start to open up its channel as they get better in their craft. In Shirou's case, he could 'add' more MC using his nerves, but the method is said to be temporary and dangerous.

    Then again, Magic Circuit isn't the only way for magi to store magical energy in their bodies. Their bodily fluids could do so as well; blood, mucus, lymph, saliva, and semen which is the basis for the infamous mana transfer in the VN.


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