I just get the feeling that Noble Phantasms are in an arbitrary separate category just because, and that Magic Resistance doesn't even look at them no matter how weak they are.
I just get the feeling that Noble Phantasms are in an arbitrary separate category just because, and that Magic Resistance doesn't even look at them no matter how weak they are.
But they have like a paragraph long conversation about it! Nasu why?
Araya, what do you seek?
「アラヤ、何を求める」
------True wisdom.「――――真の叡智を」
Araya, where do you seek it?「アラヤ、何処に求める」
Only within myself.「――――ただ、己が内にのみ」
Araya, what is your favorite color?「アラヤ、好きな色は？」
Blue. No, ora-- Auuuuuuuugh!「青、いや、オレンジイイイイイアアアっ！」
What's the quote? I only remember the stuff in the dojo where Saber acknowledges that NPs are similar to magecraft, but I don't remember anything about her Magic Resistance and NPs.
It's when they are discussing Rider's Noble Phantasm. It gets kind of weird because then they make it sound like Lancer being a Servant is good enough to hurt Saber oh wait no we lied. Plus if just being a Servant is all that counted it wouldn't explain Caster's magecraft not working."Saber. Is your armor that strong? If you say only sorcery can go through it, then that would make Lancer's Gae Bolg a sorcery as well."
"Eh…? Yes, Lancer's Gae Bolg is certainly a 'curse' close to sorcery, but… Rin, could you please explain to Shirou?"
Araya, what do you seek?
「アラヤ、何を求める」
------True wisdom.「――――真の叡智を」
Araya, where do you seek it?「アラヤ、何処に求める」
Only within myself.「――――ただ、己が内にのみ」
Araya, what is your favorite color?「アラヤ、好きな色は？」
Blue. No, ora-- Auuuuuuuugh!「青、いや、オレンジイイイイイアアアっ！」
put it this way: rider's mystic eyes and assassin's zabaniya are probably the closest things to actual magecraft there is among NPs(in fact, i think they ARE actual magecraft). Magic Resistance STILL doesn't apply against them...
Mystic Eyes aren't a Noble Phantasm.
so they're magecraft that still doesn't bother with magic resistance?
I thought magic resistance worked against Rider's eyes.
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Mr also worked against diarmuid's face.
I suppose mr is some 'catch all' ability that works on everything magical.
no, magical energy only.
Originally Posted by Bird of Hermes
Since when does anything magical not involve magical energy?
If MR worked on everything, Saber would be practically invincible in the war since only NPs stronger than A-rank would only be eligible to harm her.
that was in response to tyhe MR effecting rider's eyes thing.
Last edited by Tobias; June 22nd, 2012 at 11:33 AM.
No, resistance to mystic eyes comes from having enough magical energy to overwhelm the magical energy of the user. Not MR only resists magical energy, or however you interpreted what Tobias said.
Didn't the page for Zabinaya in one of the CM's say Saber's MR combined with her LCK and MGI is what made it so ineffective?
Hope Rides With His Godly Ronin/Cowboy Brother In Law
zabaniya's entry says only LCK and MGI matter
Noble phantasms aren't exactly magic.. They're more like odd conceptual spirit things.
There is a CM3 quite about how certain noble phantasms basically were specialized magecraft. Just going from memory, bloodfort andromeda and invisible air were listed as examples.
Well it really depends on the noble phantasm doesn't it? I mean, you can't really say knight of honor is magecraft.
I know its a little late to ask, but could soemone make a PDF of Fate/Apopcrypha, or ratehr fo what we have of it so far? i like to be bale to read without the net...that okay? or maybe link me to a tutorial on how to properly do that myself.
EDIT: i made one myself now, but im nto sure if its really good and im sure there are people out there who can do a lot better. but well, if you like then please feel free to have it. @CanonRap: is that okay?
i put it on mediafire ****************************view/?9tyyu4qf6ql16c7
Last edited by Break; June 27th, 2012 at 07:06 AM.
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