Fate/Apocrypha Translation (no spoilers)

[mAc Chaos]

Get on BlazBlue.

[Owain]

Off topic: With the storm blowing outside? You certainly enjoy your climatic batt-IT WON'T END LIKE LAST TIME, F-CKING BRING IT.

On topic: I do solemnly look forward to how the Fate/Apocrypha turns out, totally not here due to the April's Fool joke. No siree.

[BlackField]

Hear, hear.
Also: apparently, according to BlackField, tactics isn't the part of swordsmanship.

Yngwie Malmsteen is a superior guitarist to Kurt Cobain; Kurt Cobain is a superior musician to Yngwie Malmsteen.

I'm more talking about technique and skill than stats or tactics. The lines become pretty murky though. Berserker Herakles is the most powerful swordsman, if all we are going by is ability to win a fight and wields a vaguely swordlike instrument to determine swordsmanship.

[Satehi]

What is even the argument here. Are you guys trying to argue about Lancelot and Saber's respective sword skills while Lance doesn't have a sword, or is this about overall combat ability? Please enlighten.

[YeOfLittleFaith]

The argument has just calmed down, don't give incentive to start it again, for goodness's sake! xD

[warellis]

I remember at one point people here were speculating various things about the characters and that many of them were found to be true. What were those various speculations and which ones became true?

[aldeayeah]

Yngwie Malmsteen is a superior guitarist to Kurt Cobain; Kurt Cobain is a superior musician to Yngwie Malmsteen.

...Couldn't you have picked a different example?

[BlackField]

Fine. George Kollias is a technically superior drummer to Bernard Purdie; Bernard Purdie has a better sense of groove than George Kollias.

[I3uster]

should i point out that he was trying to get killed by her the entire time or were we already there

[ZZ-3000]

The argument has just calmed down, don't give incentive to start it again, for goodness's sake! xD

Dood, Lancelot was totally owning Saber

[Shlugo]

So, getting away from the Zero derail...


Mordred stats must be pretty great if after seeing the info on Vlad and Siegfried, Kairi is like "Pfff, we can handle them."

[YeOfLittleFaith]

I'm gonna take a wild guess and say her stats are pretty much equal to Arturia's. Maybe one or two are lower, like Luck or Mana.

[Black Sword]

Mordred's luck stat is probably the dump stat, considering the way her life went.

[Shlugo]

Mana is probably higher than Shirou Arturia because Kairi doesn't suck. I wouldn't be surprised if her stats were near Rin Saber level. Which doesn't bode well for whoever faces her.

[Polly]

Her MR and Instinct are both B, one rank lower than Arturia's . None of her "main" stats ( strength, endurance, agility, mana, luck ) have been revealed yet.

[terraablaze]

I'm guessing that's because of her rage rage rage just like Saber Alter.

[Shlugo]

Mordred can use Prana Burst, right? Is that an intrinsic ability of people with Prana Core?

[Polly]

I'm guessing that's because of her rage rage rage just like Saber Alter.

Saber Alter has All the Evils of the World to fight against to stay sane and not go full-berserk. Mordred is just hot-headed, so I don't think her lower Instinct is due to having to suppress her rage ( not to mention that Mordred doesn't seem to care too much about suppressing or controlling her temper ).
Maybe her lower stats are because she is not a perfect clone but a faulty homunculus?

[BlackField]

Mordred is a faker, fakers are worse than the original. Polly is possibly correct.

[Polly]

There's also the fact that homunculi are usually developed extra-uteri, whereas Morgan supposedly developed Mordred within her own womb and gave birth to her as if she were a normal child, which would indicate that Morgan lacks the skill or equipment needed to make a proper homunculus ( unlike the Einzberns who are masters of the craft ). The result - a Saber-clone whose abilities are not as good as the original's. It explains why she lost to her father in a one-on-one duel ( though this also might be due to the fact that Mordred was a fast-aging homunculus less than ten years old whereas Saber had spent her entire life training a fighting and is therefore a more skilled and experienced fighter ), and it ties well with the "original > copy/faker" thing in Nasuverse.