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    Quote Originally Posted by mewarmo990 View Post
    Such a thing was never implied, though?

    I think it's more that some knights replaced certain seats over time.
    Oh, I see. That makes sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SpoonyViking View Post
    No, no, I got the reference. I just didn't know there was a next generation Round Table after Arturia's death at Camlann.
    they were the people preparing to be the next generation but the next generation never got around to happening because Arthur went back to save Ayaka.
    but you see this isn't as snappy as "12 knights of the round table: the next generation"
    Quote Originally Posted by FSF 5, Chapter 14: Gold and Lions I
    Dumas flashed a fearless grin at Flat and Jack as he rattled off odd turns of phrase.
    "And most importantly, it's me who'll be doing the cooking."
    Though abandoned, forgotten, and scorned as out-of-date dolls, they continue to carry out their mission, unchanged from the time they were designed.
    Machines do not lose their worth when a newer model appears.
    Their worth (life) ends when humans can no longer bear that purity.


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    Quote Originally Posted by asterism42 View Post
    So how many seals were released when he fired on Gilgamesh, d'you think? Wasn't all thirteen, I'm pretty sure. At the very least, Mordred's condition wasn't met.

    - - - Updated - - -

    Also lol at the Excalibur wank. Even restrained it's enough to blast the beast, and this is after it overloaded Para's NP.

    Suppose it had to keep up with the power creep somehow.
    Proto Excalibur has been EX rank from the start unlike Artoria's though, this is arguably just letting it live up to its established reputation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by You View Post
    they were the people preparing to be the next generation but the next generation never got around to happening because Arthur went back to save Ayaka.
    but you see this isn't as snappy as "12 knights of the round table: the next generation"
    I see. Thanks, You!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mcjon01 View Post
    We'll see Excalibur's full power when Proto Saber and Saber each fulfill half of the restrictions and cross the beams to beat Solomon.
    Yes please!

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    Quick question: Is Arthur able to transform into spirit form? I remember reading somewhere in Phoenix's translations(maybe as a sidenote) that he's able to, and given that we know that his wish was for the salvation for the Holy Grail I think it's a yes. I just want to be sure.

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    Sorry, I've should've posted this earlier, but here is the character profiles for Volume 4 of the novels.

    Archer
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    The third ranked Servant, Archer.
    He is a hero of salvation from Ancient Persia.
    A warrior who left a mark on the mysteries of the ancient era.

    He was the retainer of King Manuchehr who was called West Asia’s last king of the ancient era, and it is said that he ended the war between Persia and Turku which spanned a long time.
    He was a hero who bestowed peace and tranquillity to the people of both countries, and is still a hero who is continually loved by lots of people even in the modern era.
    That fully powered shot of his could rip apart even the earth―――――

    He is praised by Saber for “his skill which rivalled Sir Tristan, one of the knights of the Round Table” in their encounter in Mt. Okutama.
    He can also perform a long range attack which could be called a special move, but it is not dependent on his Noble Phantasm.
    He also confronted Saber in combat in Mt. Okutama, however at that time, his Master had already――――

    Personal Data:

    First Person: Ore
    Servant Rank: 3rd
    True Name: Arash
    Skills: Magical Resistance, Independent Action, Clairvoyance, Robust Health etc…
    Noble Phantasm: Stella: Lone Meteor

    Status:
    Agility: B+
    Physical Strength: B
    Endurance: A
    Luck: D
    Prana: E
    Noble Phantasm: B++

    Lancer
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    The fourth ranked Servant, Lancer.
    Female.
    A tragic war maiden that’s spoken of in Norse mythology.
    On top of receiving an order to carry out a low-level skirmish at least once, with a named Servant by her Master, she was coerced by a Command Seal, into drinking “a certain miracle drug” in front of an opponent that she had deemed her greatest formidable enemy.

    Having crossed swords with Saber at the beginning of the hostilities, she had confirmed that he was surely a powerful Servant, and hesitatingly drank the miracle drug ――――
    She descended into agony due to 3 factors, her original function to seek out heroes, her mind and memories of dying as a human woman loving her beloved, and the coerced orders from her Master.
    She manifested with 2 types of Noble Phantasms, but without having used the 2nd Noble Phantasm from some primary factor, she released a power similar to a 3rd Noble Phantasm instead.

    Personal Data:
    First Person: Watashi
    Servant Rank: 4th
    True Name: Brynhild
    Skills: Prana Release (Fire), Riding, Primordial Rune, Divinity
    Noble Phantasm: Brynhild Komédia: A Trip to Hel Just For Me
    Brynhild Romantia: Until Death Do Us Part

    Note: Type-Moon wiki has her 2nd Noble Phantasm as "Byrnhild Komedia: A trip to Sheol only for me," but I feel like the Norse Underworld should've been used instead.
    So I translated it as "Brynhild Komédia: A trip to Hel just for me"

    Stats:
    Agility: A
    Physical Strength: B+
    Endurance: A
    Luck: E
    Prana: C
    Noble Phantasm: A

    Nigel Sayward
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    A magus from the U.K.
    He is a member of the Clock Tower.

    His skill in alchemy is top class.
    One could even call him a genius.

    While using Alchemy as the basis for his magical lineage, he established his own original magic (magical foundation) by using the special traits of “Obsession” his own origin, and created a pinnacle miracle drug that especially controls a human’s emotions.
    Even in his native land of England, he was proud of his unparalleled results in “Human Control and Management.”
    He especially manufactured his miracle drug, to actively use Lancer’s Noble Phantasm to its fullest potential but…….

    Personal Data:

    First Person: Watashi
    Master Rank: 2nd Rank – Cherubim
    Magic Lineage: An original magic that uses Alchemy as a base.
    Magic Circuits / Quality: B
    Magic Circuits / Amount: B
    Magic Circuits / Composition: Normal (It varies more or less with the appearance of his origin)

    Elsa Saijou
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    A magus who excels at wind elemental conversion magic.

    She is a woman in her 20s.
    She appears younger than her years.

    She is a half German-Japanese, and she has nationality in both Japan and Germany.
    She has a weak presence that transcends her worldliness which differs from an average magus.

    Her official occupation is that of a camerawoman.
    After losing her child for some reason, she personally witnessed scenes of bloodshed in a certain dispute country, and prayed to the Grail for “all mothers and children to be saved” because of the impact of it.

    She specialises in both Japanese and German cooking.

    Personal Data:
    First Person: Atashi
    Master Rank: 5th Rank – Virtues
    Magic Lineage: Elemental Conversion Magic
    Magic Circuits / Quality: C
    Magic Circuits / Amount: B
    Magic Circuits / Composition: Normal
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    Bryn's NP name reeks of Dante lel.


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    Elsa's a cameraman? Should have summoned George then.

    Also Brynhild Komédia. When will we learn what it can do.

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    I find the details surrounding that "3rd Noble Phantasm" pretty interesting, nonetheless. Unsure if this third one came from the drug that Nigel gave her or was something else.

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    I believe it's referring to her primal runes and/or giant meteor.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EX-Saber View Post
    I find the details surrounding that "3rd Noble Phantasm" pretty interesting, nonetheless. Unsure if this third one came from the drug that Nigel gave her or was something else.
    Quote Originally Posted by CK_Byuu View Post
    Bryn actually has two NPs, one which is restricted in order to strengthen her runes skill. But the runes is powerful enough to be her third NP.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nobody View Post
    Also Brynhild Komédia. When will we learn what it can do.
    If she were a Rider, and with a name like that, I would have assumed it would summon the wagon she used for her trip to Hel in the "Helreid Brynhildar" poem. Since she's a Lancer, though, maybe it'll recreate her funeral pyre? A suicide attack similar to Arash's own Stella?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SpoonyViking View Post
    If she were a Rider, and with a name like that, I would have assumed it would summon the wagon she used for her trip to Hel in the "Helreid Brynhildar" poem. Since she's a Lancer, though, maybe it'll recreate her funeral pyre? A suicide attack similar to Arash's own Stella?
    Good lord, what a horrible NP. But then again, so is Brynhild Romantia. And Stella. Good thing Manaka is here to mess the Grail War up or else Rider would have had this war in the bag.

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    Well, that's only speculation on my part. :-)
    I agree with you on Stella, though. I think it should have had two modes: a regular "supershot", and the true one which acts like a combination Broken Phantasm / suicide attack.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SpoonyViking View Post
    Well, that's only speculation on my part. :-)
    I agree with you on Stella, though. I think it should have had two modes: a regular "supershot", and the true one which acts like a combination Broken Phantasm / suicide attack.
    :\ that just ruins what a Noble Phantasm is though. Stella is super special, and it runs with the lore. What you're suggesting is to have almost every Noble Phantasm have some kind of nerfed version that isn't incredibly taxing on the Servant, but this is just my simple rant against your comment.

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    Well, I wasn't thinking that generally, to be honest, but what I proposed does have some basis in canon with Arturia's "Excalislash" and "Excaliblast".

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    that's because one of excalibur's concepts is "sword that amplifies"
    Quote Originally Posted by FSF 5, Chapter 14: Gold and Lions I
    Dumas flashed a fearless grin at Flat and Jack as he rattled off odd turns of phrase.
    "And most importantly, it's me who'll be doing the cooking."
    Though abandoned, forgotten, and scorned as out-of-date dolls, they continue to carry out their mission, unchanged from the time they were designed.
    Machines do not lose their worth when a newer model appears.
    Their worth (life) ends when humans can no longer bear that purity.


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    Quote Originally Posted by SpoonyViking View Post
    Well, I wasn't thinking that generally, to be honest, but what I proposed does have some basis in canon with Arturia's "Excalislash" and "Excaliblast".
    Many Noble Phantasms shouldn't be compared to Stella, because these Noble Phantasms take away a significant amount of Magical Energy rather than suicide. And with how Stella's lore works,
    “Now, o’ being who created the moon and stars…… Behold my deeds, my death, my spenta armaiti which I must carry out.”
    Arash must die for this to occur. Stella isn't made to be something that kills or destroys; Stella is a Noble Phantasm that's supposed to end wars, conflicts, etc. forever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EX-Saber View Post
    Many Noble Phantasms shouldn't be compared to Stella, because these Noble Phantasms take away a significant amount of Magical Energy rather than suicide. And with how Stella's lore works,

    Arash must die for this to occur. Stella isn't made to be something that kills or destroys; Stella is a Noble Phantasm that's supposed to end wars, conflicts, etc. forever.
    Wait.

    If Stella is just the arrow that marked the border between the Iranians and the Turanians, why is it beamu.

    Also, why is it named Stella in the first place? Arash's girlfriend or something?

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