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    By "involved" do you mean "participated in" or "helped create"? Also, it would be very unlikely that the Grail would be able to summon Alternian legends, since they're... legends from Alternia, not Earth.

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    Hm. Is phisical existance in the planets a requisite for summoning? Is the Throne of Heroes exclusive to Earth? What if I altered the legends to make it so they occured on Earth?

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    If the Throne wasn't exclusive to Earth we'd have had someone goof up and summon a Type of all things.

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    Are Types famous enough to be in the Throne of Heroes? How many people actually know about them? Also, since the Throne is outside of time, could it retroactively include Alternian heroes when troll culture began mixing with human culture?
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    How would TYPEs be in the Throne of Heroes, the thing for human heroes?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Christemo View Post
    How would TYPEs be in the Throne of Heroes, the thing for human heroes?
    Also the grail is supposed to have limit to have powerful beings can be summoned right? which is why it can't summon gods.

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    Its not a limit, it just can't summon Divine Spirits, because if it had that kind of raw Prana, it could breach the Root without anything else/then why would need to reach the Root.

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    It's not that there's a limit to powerful beings that keeps gods from being summoned. Just that what's being summoned is inherently human.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Christemo View Post
    Its not a limit, it just can't summon Divine Spirits, because if it had that kind of raw Prana, it could breach the Root without anything else/then why would need to reach the Root.
    But it is.

    The call the Grail an "omnipotent" wish granting device. However there's nothing omnipotent about the Grail. So therefore by default there is a limit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by machiavellianFictionist View Post
    Are Types famous enough to be in the Throne of Heroes? How many people actually know about them? Also, since the Throne is outside of time, could it retroactively include Alternian heroes when troll culture began mixing with human culture?
    In theory, yes. Since the Throne records beings who, because of their extraordinary power, accomplished feats beyond the ken of man, and were subsequently recognized by the masses, it could also come to include trolls as well.

    I don't think heroes native to the Alternian cultures can be summoned, since their deeds happened on Alternia, thus the thing that records their legends is there, and not here. If so, then those heroes would be rather weak compared to their Earth counterparts because they're lightyears away from the origins of their legends and only the trolls of the present would believe in their legends, greatly nerfing them.

    No. Types cannot be summoned by the Throne since they are embodiments of planet, closer to a natural phenomenon than a "hero"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nuclear Consensus View Post
    No. Types cannot be summoned by the Throne since they are embodiments of planet, closer to a natural phenomenon than a "hero"
    That's also ignoring that they are 1. Not human 2. Not famous.

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    Well, there's always Moon Cell.

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    Nope. Moon Cell records humanity and gods, not aliens. All Moon Cell does differently is that it lets you ignore the Far East HS limit.

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    *cough*Arcueid*cough*

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    Arcuied isnt an alien

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    If I remember correctly, Arcueid was "brought into" the Moon Cell Grail War, instead of being "summoned" , as a regular Servant should be.

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    That's just cause of her nature as an elemental. It's the same thing as trying to say "My Servant is Amaterasu. Not Tamamo, Amafuckingterasu" and the Moon Cell is like "WTF NO" and Nasu is like "WTF NO" and the producers are like "But the fans want it" and Nasu is like "okay fine."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Christemo View Post
    2. Not famous.
    Only because Type Saturn didn't appear during Christian era.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nuclear Consensus View Post
    No. Types cannot be summoned by the Throne since they are embodiments of planet, closer to a natural phenomenon than a "hero"
    Not embodiment, just high tier stuff found on their respective turf.
    Last edited by Daiki; September 11th, 2014 at 07:15 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daiki View Post
    Not embodiment, just high tier stuff found on their respective turf.
    I thought being the embodiment of planets was what made them so powerful?

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    Nope, TYPEs are generally "the strongest lifeform on a planet", IIRC.

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