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    The smell of the lukewarm ocean and the chorus of cicadas RoydGolden's Avatar
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    On the other hand, young Waver is girlier than Shirou ever was and he's one of the only characters in Zero who gets anything close to a happy ending...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dullahan View Post
    "we've transcended the Fordist paradigm...our assembly line can produce all SORTS of different things!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by RoydGolden View Post
    On the other hand, young Waver is girlier than Shirou ever was and he's one of the only characters in Zero who gets anything close to a happy ending...
    Waver certainly whines more.

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    You'd whine too if your Servant went "fuck strategy" and literally ran in the middle of a melee taking you with him. After nearly stranding you on top of a bridge with no handrails, that is.
    shit BL says

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    It's like with centaur girls, you're fucking a horse. Sure the human part is the one that moans but your dick is in the horse, no way around it.
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    boytoy angst > fulfilling life of misanthropic extremist environmentalism
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    ladies, he's single
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    Yeah, but that's because he's got more issues than National Geographic.
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    You can rage, but there is no waifu communism.

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    He was at his whiniest before his servant was even around.

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    Quote Originally Posted by warellis View Post
    Waver certainly whines more.
    So whiny boy = happy ending (?)
    Not dealing with it...

    Why even try?


    This is golden...
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    Lol Ishtarin went full Aqua
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    I've seen people in this forum spend the GDP of a third world country into Grand Order
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    Yeah, there's a saying that you should strive for perfection knowing full well you won't achieve it. Saber looked at it and said "Hold my Beer"
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    And then all her friends resented her for it.

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    Well-behaved bottoms rarely make history.
    <NEW FIC!> Revolution #9: Somewhere out there, there's a universe in which your mistakes and failures never happened, and all you wished for is true. How hard would you fight to make that real?

    [11:20:46 AM] GlowStiks: lucina is supes attractive
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    Quote Originally Posted by Five_X View Post
    Well-behaved bottoms rarely make history.
    So you are saying

    *puts on shades*

    To make history, you should be a bad ass

    Makes sense!
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    ...You've earned it. Just take it and go.

    shit BL says

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    It's like with centaur girls, you're fucking a horse. Sure the human part is the one that moans but your dick is in the horse, no way around it.
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    boytoy angst > fulfilling life of misanthropic extremist environmentalism
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    ladies, he's single
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    Yeah, but that's because he's got more issues than National Geographic.
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    You can rage, but there is no waifu communism.

    You are not getting government-handout waifus.


    Once and always and nevermore.

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    He's just putting the bone of his sword into other people until it explodes and lets out parts of him inside them.
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    Genderswaps are terrible, but I think I and other people would hate them less if Fate didn't keep ignoring actual heroines throughout history and folklore. Like, why bother turning Francis Drake into a woman when Ching Shih and Grace O'Malley exist?
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    Fate Zero is just Fate Stay Night for people who think Shirou is too girly
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    I think Alex IV can eat Goku.

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    As if Google analytics available to the end user like that meant anything about population-wide trends.
    Quote Originally Posted by asterism42 View Post
    That time they checked out that hot guy they were just admiring his watch, yeah?


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    Julie Delpy? Was she in a movie about Bathory or something?
    Also, why does Ankh-su-namun (sp?) from the Brendan Fraser Mummy movies show up for Nitocris?

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    so i was thinking about the clash between enkidu and Gil and the giant flower and thinking to myself "should i take that visual representation seriously?" but then i remembered that Apocrypha also had a similar situation. the clash between Balmung and Clarent is also stated to be visible from space. initially i didnt take that narration seriously either because that would logically have resulted in at least Darnic's backyard getting blown off the map.

    however, in both instances the attack was seen from space even though the final damage was much lower than the blast itself would have led you to believe, so at least the Strange Fake scene has a precedent in Apo.

    also, the difference between blast size and actual damage reminds me of the planetary defenses talk said by Da Vinci during Shinjuku. i wonder if the further you are from ground level, the weaker the restraints become.

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    https://www.cnbc.com/2018/11/28/altr...e-in-juul.html

    Lol turns out Altria is a tobacco company.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Altria
    The name "Altria" is claimed to come from the Latin word for "high" and was part of a trend of companies rebranding to names that previously did not exist, Accenture (previously Andersen Consulting) and Verizon being notable examples,[4] though linguist Steven Pinker suggests that in fact the name is an "egregious example" of phonesthesia — with the company attempting to "switch its image from bad people who sell addictive carcinogens to a place or state marked by altruism and other lofty values".
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    Dumas flashed a fearless grin at Flat and Jack as he rattled off odd turns of phrase.
    "And most importantly, it's me who'll be doing the cooking."
    Though abandoned, forgotten, and scorned as out-of-date dolls, they continue to carry out their mission, unchanged from the time they were designed.
    Machines do not lose their worth when a newer model appears.
    Their worth (life) ends when humans can no longer bear that purity.


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    Someone tell Aniplex that its copyrighted and they need to change the name like all the JoJo stands.

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    Quote Originally Posted by You View Post
    I said that the first time they said Altria

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    is it fair to say Kingu's characterization is part of Enkidu's?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alexandre Kojčve, Introduction to the Reading of Hegel
    The disappearance of Man at the end of History, therefore, is not a cosmic catastrophe: the natural World remains what it has been from all eternity. And therefore, it is not a biological catastrophe either: Man remains alive as animal in harmony with Nature or given Being. What disappears is Man properly so-called - that is, Action negating the given, and Error, or in general, the Subject opposed to the Object. In point of fact, the end of human Time or History - that is, the defnitive annihilation of Man properly so-called or of the free and historical Individual - means quite simply the cessation of Action in the full sense of the term. Practically, this means: the disappearance of wars and bloody revolutions. And also the disappearance of Philosophy; for since Man himself no longer changes essentially, there is no longer any reason to change the (true) principles which are at the basis of his understanding of the World and of himself. But all the rest cen be preserved indefinitely; art, love, play, etc., etc.; in short, everything that makes Man happy.
    [...]
    If one accepts "the disappearance of Man at the end of History," if one asserts that "Man remains alive as animal," with the specification that "What disappears is Man properly so-called," one cannot say that "all the rest can be preserved indefinitely: art, love, play, etc." If Man becomes an animal again, his arts, his loves, and his play must also become purely "natural" again. Hence it would have to be admitted that after the end of History, men would construct their edifices and works of art as birds build their nests and spiders spin their webs, would perform musical concerts after the fashion of frogs and cicadas, would play like young animals, and would indulge in love like adult beasts. But one cannot then say that all this "makes Man happy." One would heve to say that post-historical animals of the species Homo sapiens (which will live amidst abundance and complete security) will be content as a result of their artistic, erotic and playful behavior, inasmuch as, by definition, they will be contented with it. But there is more. "The definitive annihilation of Men properly so-called' also means the definitive disappearance of human Discourse (Logos) in the strict sense. Animals of the species Homo sapiens would react by conditioned reflexes to vocal signals or sign "language," and thus their so-called "discourses" would be like what is supposed to be the "language" of bees. What would disappear, then, is not only Philosophy or the search for discursive wisdom, but also that wisdom itself. For - in these post-historical animals there would no longer be any [discursive] understanding of the World and of self."

    At the period when I wrote the above note (1946), Man's return to animality did not appear unthinkable to me as a prospect for the future (more or less near). But shortly afterwards (1948) I understood that the Hegelian-Marxist end of History was not yet to come, but was already a present, here and now.
    [...]
    I was led to conclude...that the "American way of life" was the type of life specific to the post-historical period, the actual presence of the United States in the world prefiguring the "eternal present" future of all of humanity. Thus, Man's return to animality appeared no longer as a possibility that was yet to come, but as a certainty that was already present.

    It was following a recent voyage to Japan (1959) that I had a radical change of opinion on this point. There I was able to observe a society that is one of a kind, because it alone has for almost three centuries experienced life at the "end of History" - that is, in the absence of all civil or external war (following the liquidation of feudalism by the roturier Hideyoshi and the artificial isolation of the country conceived and realized by his noble successor Yiyeasu). Now, the existence of the Japanese nobles, who ceased to risk their lives (even in duel) and yet did not for that begin to work, was anything but animal. "Post-historical" Japanese civilization undertook ways diametrically opposed to the "American way." No doubt, there were no longer in Japan any Religion, Morals, or Politics in the "European" or "historical" sense of these words. But Snobbery in its pure form created disciplines negating the "natural" or "animal" given which in effectiveness far surpassed those that arose, in Japan or elsewhere, from "historical" Action-that is, from warlike and revolutionary Fights or from forced Work. To be sure, the peaks (equalled nowhere else) of specifically Japanese Snobbery - the Noh Theater, the ceremony of tea, and the art of bouquets of flowers - were and still remain the exclusive prerogative of the nobles and the rich. But in spite of persistent economic and political inequalities, all Japanese without exception are currently in a position to live according to totally formalized values - that is, values completely empty of all "human" content in the "historical" sense. Thus, in the extreme, every Japanese is in principle capable of commiting, from pure snobbery, a perfectly "gratuitous" suicide (the classical epee of the samurai can be replaced by an airplane or a torpedo), which has nothing to do with the risk of life in a Fight waged for the sake of "historical" values that have social or political content. This seems to allow one to believe that the recently begun interaction berween Japan and the Western World will finally lead not to a rebarbarization of the Japanese but to a "Japanization" of the Westerners (including the Russians).

    Now, since no animal can be a snob, every "Japanized" post-historical period would be specifically human. Hence there would be no "definitive annihilation of Man properly so-called," as long as there were animals of the species Homo sapiens that could serve as the "natural" support for what is human in men. But, as I said in the above Note, an "animal that is in harmony with Nature or given Being" is a living being that is in no way human. To remain human, Man must remain a "Subject opposed to the Object" even if "Action negating the given and Error" disappears. This means that while henceforth speaking in an adequate fashion of everything that is given to him, post-historical Man must continue to detach "form" from "content," doing so no longer in order actively to transform the latter, but so that he may oppose himself as a pure "form" to himself and to others taken as "content" of any sort.
    Quote Originally Posted by Azuma Hiroki, Otaku: Japan's Database Animals
    ...what is important here is not Hegel’s own thinking but the interpretation Kojčve added to Hegel’s philosophy of history. Specifically, it is a footnote added in the second edition of his Introduction to the Reading of Hegel, twenty years after the initial lectures, which became famous, at least in Japan. In the first chapter, in order to open simply, Kojčve emphasizes that after the end of Hegelian history only two modes of existence remained for human beings. One was the pursuit of the American way of life, or what he called the “return to animality,” and the other was Japanese snobbery.

    Kojčve called the form of consumer that arose in postwar America animal. His reason for using such a strong expression is related to the provisions for humans peculiar to Hegelian philosophy. According to Hegel (or more properly according to Kojčve’s interpretation of Hegel), Homo sapiens are not in and of themselves human. In order for human beings to be human, they must behave in a way that negates their own environment. To put it another way, they must struggle against nature.

    Animals, in contrast, usually live in harmony with nature. Accordingly, postwar American consumer society—surrounded by products satisfying consumer “needs” alone and whose fashion changes accordion to the media’s demands alone—is not, in his terminology, humanistic but, rather, “animalistic.” Just as there is neither hunger nor strife, there is no philosophy: “After the end of History, men would construct their edifices and works of art as birds build their nests and spiders spin their webs, would perform musical concerts after the fashion of frogs and cicadas, would play like young animals, and would indulge in love like adult beasts,” wrote Kojčve with some frustration.

    On the other hand, snobbery, instead of having any essential reason for denying the given environment, is a behavioral pattern that denies being “based on formalized values.” Snobs are not in harmony with their environment. Even if there is no chance whatsoever for denial, snobs presume to deny, to manufacture formal opposition, and to love the thrill of opposing nature. The example Kojčve gives is ritual suicide (seppuku). In ritual suicide, in spite of having no reason to die, suicide is committed in essence because of the formal values of honor and order. This is the ultimate snobbery. This way of life is certainly not “animalistic” in that there are moments of negation. However, this also differs from the human way of life in the “historical” age. For the nature of snobs and their oppositional stance (for instance, the opposition to instinct at the time of ritual suicide) would no longer move history in any sense. No matter how many sacrificial corpses are piled up, ritual suicide, which is purely and courteously executed, certainly would not be a motivating force of revolution.

    Based only on a hunch and a short stay in Japan, the argument in Kojčve’s footnote consists largely of fantasies. However, when we look back at it, we can say that his prescient belief that the core of Japanese society is characterized by a mentality of snobbery, and that it will govern the cultural world, is frighteningly appropriate today.

    To be sure, precisely after his pointing this out, otaku culture appeared in Japan and, proclaiming itself heir to Edo culture, cultivated a new snobbery. According to Okada Toshio’s Introduction to Otaku Studies, to which we have already referred several times, otaku harbor a sense of distance best expressed in the following quip: “as they know they are being tricked, they can be truly emotionally moved.” This has become a pillar of otaku sensibility. The otaku know that “it is quite meaningless to dare to watch ‘childish’ programs after becoming adults.” For example, the robot anime and squadron special effects dramas that have deep-seated popularity with otaku expand on the same kinds of narratives in the same kinds of settings, and to that extent an individual work can be said to have absolutely no meaning. However, the otaku sensibility, according to Okada, consists in distinguishing values in form, “idea” from this substantive meaninglessness. This kind of detachment is precisely the characteristic of snobbery described by Kojčve.

    For example, Kojčve writes, “post-historical Man must continue to detach ‘form’ from ‘content,’ doing so no longer in order to actively transform the latter, but so that he may oppose himself as a pure ‘form’ to himself and to others taken as a ‘content’ of any sort.” This kind of description is extremely difficult to comprehend, but when we compare it with the consumer behavior of the otaku pictured in Introduction to Otaku Studies, we can understand it in a very concrete way.

    Posthistorical man, namely the otaku, is fully conversant with the values and patterns of otaku works; he can consciously detach the “idea” from them—which is to say, “to continue to detach ‘form’ from ‘content.’” However, this detaching is no longer for the purpose of finding meaning in various works or engaging in social activities but rather is in order to confirm the self as a pure idle spectator (which is “the self as pure form”). In this way, the otaku personify in some sense the way of life in “posthistory” predicted fifty years ago by Kojčve.
    galactic brain: CitLB = a properly post-historical conflict about japanese otaku snobs obliterating a series of metaphors for the reanimalised american way of life

    crypto-reactionary nasu never left us
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    Expresses the exceeding size of one's library.
    Books are extremely many, loaded on an oxcart the ox will sweat.
    At home piled to the ridgepole of the house, from this meaning.
    Read out as 「Ushi ni ase shi, munagi ni mitsu.」
    Source: 柳宗元「其為書,處則充棟宇,出則汗牛馬。」— Tang Dynasty


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    ...Hégel was a weeaboo?
    shit BL says

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    boytoy angst > fulfilling life of misanthropic extremist environmentalism
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    ladies, he's single
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    Yeah, but that's because he's got more issues than National Geographic.
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    You can rage, but there is no waifu communism.

    You are not getting government-handout waifus.


    Once and always and nevermore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deathhappens View Post
    ...Hégel was a weeaboo?
    Kojeve was a weaboo.

    Actually more of an anti-weaboo, but whatever.
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