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    Quote Originally Posted by Lily Emilio View Post
    Actually in non-Extra worlds, Sefar landed on the moon first and wiped out Crimson Moon's kingdom, then once she got strong enough she came down to Earth and wreck the ancient civilizations.
    I don't remember that ever being mentioned. Where?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Imperial View Post

    Give me intimate stories about damaged people or give me death.
    do you have a fetish for seeing emotional or mental suffering by any chance? what is wrong with telling a story that doesnt require those elements?

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    Quote Originally Posted by fire_mountain_30 View Post
    do you have a fetish for seeing emotional or mental suffering by any chance? what is wrong with telling a story that doesnt require those elements?
    Because characters who don't go through it aren't as interesting.

    Has FGO lately gotten more into Rits' head compared to earlier periods in it?

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    It's within one's rights to find one kind of adversity or challenge, such as emotional pain, more interesting than others as a story element. I probably wouldn't like Macbeth if the lead couple were just jackasses whose only problem is how to get away with killing so many people. To me, it doesn't entail a "fetish," let alone a desire to see anyone suffer in real life.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Walnut Sparks View Post
    I probably wouldn't like Macbeth if the lead couple were just jackasses whose only problem is how to get away with killing so many people.
    I take it you don't like Titus Andronicus then
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    Quote Originally Posted by Walnut Sparks View Post
    It's within one's rights to find one kind of adversity or challenge, such as emotional pain, more interesting than others as a story element. I probably wouldn't like Macbeth if the lead couple were just jackasses whose only problem is how to get away with killing so many people. To me, it doesn't entail a "fetish," let alone a desire to see anyone suffer in real life.
    But it does mean every story has to be like that, or that a story is bad because it doesn't have these elements.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Zork Knight View Post
    I take it you don't like Titus Andronicus then
    Myself, I don't think it's as good as MacBeth, but characterising Titus Andronicus as just "jerkasses trying to get away with murder" is very unfair to it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SpoonyViking View Post
    Myself, I don't think it's as good as MacBeth, but characterising Titus Andronicus as just "jerkasses trying to get away with murder" is very unfair to it.
    I suppose it's better to put it as "jerkasses trying to get back at jerkasses trying to get away with rape and murder"

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    Quote Originally Posted by fire_mountain_30 View Post


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    do you have a fetish for seeing emotional or mental suffering by any chance? what is wrong with telling a story that doesnt require those elements?
    "Happy families are all alike; every unhappy family is unhappy in its own way." Tolstoy's Anna Karenina, first sentence.

    It can also be broadly applied to protagonists and characters, a happy character isn't really interesting to follow.
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    Well... To tie it back to the original argument, I suppose the most appropriate description would be "a collection of deeply flawed individuals and unrepentant jerks getting back at each other in a horrifying cycle of revenge, so possibly it's less that the individuals are flawed and more that the system in itself is flawed".

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    Quote Originally Posted by All fictions View Post
    "Happy families are all alike; every unhappy family is unhappy in its own way." Tolstoy's Anna Karenina, first sentence.
    and how many characters in individual Fate stories are directly related to each other?

    heck, Darnic's missmatched clan were actually on good terms with each other. while of course each should have had more screen time, none of them were people with massive PTSD nor did they have a bad relationship with each other and each of them still proved / had the potential to be entertaining to read about by themselves by virtue of their interactions with others

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    Quote Originally Posted by yokushi View Post
    It does, there is even a recurring cast that evolves through the story for that reason. I would even argue that ultimately FGO focus is more about the characters than the actual lore.
    yet another good reason to not have a blank self insert, even if they have gotten more distinct lately

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    Quote Originally Posted by fire_mountain_30 View Post
    and how many characters in individual Fate stories are directly related to each other?

    heck, Darnic's missmatched clan were actually on good terms with each other. while of course each should have had more screen time, none of them were people with massive PTSD nor did they have a bad relationship with each other and each of them still proved / had the potential to be entertaining to read about by themselves by virtue of their interactions with others
    Darnic's mismatched clan still has conflicts and arguments break out between members. And it was noted in entries about it about how ramshackle it really was, especially with various families being ready to fight over the scraps if/when it fell apart.

    Heck the only reason we see the Masters in Team Black work together is because Fiore is there being the cheerful glue in keeping the team effort from falling apart, and we see her brother and others noting the strains of leadership on her there, especially after Darnic dies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zork Knight View Post
    I take it you don't like Titus Andronicus then
    Not particularly.

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    But it does mean every story has to be like that, or that a story is bad because it doesn't have these elements.
    No, but I think it's okay for someone to strongly prefer stories with those elements. To me it's like asking what's your favorite ice cream flavor.
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    Finally some intelligent FGO discussion.


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    Can anybody who speaks Japanese please give some idea what they're talking about here? Because that looks really weird, and I'm kind of curious for the context.

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    who is the most "mama" servant? What constitutes of mama-ness? How do we measure mama-ness? Being nice? Unconditional love and acceptance? Being harsh sometimes? Being able to take care of you?

    Who knows, I choose Raikou mama. She is tall (headcanon), nice, strong, and has big boobs.

    And as Stark in the video above indicated, Raikou mama can apparently cure cancer now.

    Also I don't consider Europa mama type, she is grandma type, a bit different
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    Mean in terms of servant Raikou is the mom-est but in terms of moms in general I have to go with Kaiju mama Tiamat

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