The Type-Moon Miscellaneous Thoughts Thread

[Deathhappens]

Tokiomi's death wasn't at all a case of "I have no idea how to fight"; it was a case of "I'm a terrible judge of character". His guard was down because he trusted Kirei not to backstab him and he trusted Gil to watch his back. If either of those trusts had actually been well-placed, he wouldn't have died.

Kayneth, on the other hand, absolutely is an "I'm really overpowered but have no clue how to fight" magus. You look at the mats and see all the abilities this guy has and you're like "wow he's crazy strong" but he doesn't really have any strategy other than brute force, and he loses because he blunders into a series of obvious traps set by a more experienced fighter. I think Cornelius Alba is another example of this character type; repeat magic seems terrifying on paper, but he dies like a punk because he doesn't really have a clue what to do on a battlefield compared to Touko or Araya.

Just goes to show that being overpowered doesn't protect you from being a dipshit.



See my previous point about "this is mainly a franchise about people fighting". Just because the most interesting characters (and therefore the ones who most of the stories focus on) are rogues and weirdos who live on the edge and get into dangerous fights all the time, does not mean the setting is populated entirely by rogues and weirdos who live on the edge and get into dangerous fights all the time. Most of the people in the Star Wars universe aren't Jedi or smugglers or bounty hunters, but the story isn't about them because they're not interesting.

Βeing trusting is a terrible survival trait
that's kind of my point

[asterism42]

Waver is barely a fighter for a MC lol.

Waver is also a crappy mage, so expecting him to fight with magic is a bit unfair

[SpoonyViking]

Wasn't Alba an Executor? Or was that just in the Zero timeline?
Still, his fire magic seems hella powerful. It's just that it was useless against Touko's puppet. I'd attribute that more to Touko being so far above the norm than any fault of his.

But yeah, above all, TM's works are about people even more outside of the norm than usual. We're probably not going to see many "standard" magi because, well, that's the point.

[AAM1232]

Waver is also a crappy mage, so expecting him to fight with magic is a bit unfair

I mean the point was originally that "magi are NEETS in their labs who don't know much about fighting" is dumb because of all these exceptional people getting the spotlight.

[AmADo VII]

look at magi in wandering sea, they might not know how to fight but they know how to eliminate you from the existence

Nrvnqsr Chaos is also doesn't fight, he just eats.

[Deathhappens]

I mean the point was originally that "magi are NEETS in their labs who don't know much about fighting" is dumb because of all these exceptional people getting the spotlight.

That's like saying "humans are frail meatbags who can't even lift a rock without help" is dumb because look at the Justice League.

[LegalLoliLover]

Also, we need a Cao Cao Servant, as to do some kind of Tiger Dojo with him/her and Wu Zetian on how to deal with the ghosts of the losers that they put down:

[Mementore]

I mean the point was originally that "magi are NEETS in their labs who don't know much about fighting" is dumb because of all these exceptional people getting the spotlight.

We all know that all mages can kill servant if they just use that extremely rare thing close to true magic that everybody has, some examples: Shirou has a RM, Rin has the jeweled sword, Flat has himself, Kiritsugu has the origin bullets, kirei has command seals and so on.
A mage just needs to look at himself in the mirror or to search in his basement for something.

[Byegod]

We all know that all mages can kill servant if they just use that extremely rare thing close to true magic that everybody has, some examples: Shirou has a RM, Rin has the jeweled sword, Flat has himself, Kiritsugu has the origin bullets, kirei has command seals and so on.
A mage just needs to look at himself in the mirror or to search in his basement for something.

Unironically yeah, part of my point is this as well

[AAM1232]

You say that like there's no context involved or that they're typical mages lol. I don't think using exceptional people is a great way to prove your point.

[LegalLoliLover]

A long time ago, I mentioned that my favorite TM lolis just happen to be chaos-aligned, evil-aligned, or both. Now I realize why. It's so whenever someone tries to rip out the line between fiction and reality and accuse of certain crimes, all I need to is scare them into submission by listing all of my other equally fictional crimes. The murder. The terrorism. The cannibalism. With all that, one would have little time to talk about that other thing.

[Rafflesiac]

Dude I didn't need to shave today

[LegalLoliLover]

Dude I didn't need to shave today

Given that I'm working from home, due to the CCP virus, I don't need to shave at all, but I still do it as a matter of habit and self-esteem.

[Dullahan]

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[Deathhappens]

A long time ago, I mentioned that my favorite TM lolis just happen to be chaos-aligned, evil-aligned, or both. Now I realize why. It's so whenever someone tries to rip out the line between fiction and reality and accuse of certain crimes, all I need to is scare them into submission by listing all of my other equally fictional crimes. The murder. The terrorism. The cannibalism. With all that, one would have little time to talk about that other thing.

What do YOUR fictional crimes have to do with the alignment of your favourite lolis? You don't get rep for stannin a baller, homie, that ain't how the streets work

[LegalLoliLover]

No, it's more like I assist with theirs.

[Holiday]

...How do you assist fictional characters with committing crimes?

[LegalLoliLover]

Fictionally, of course.

[Holiday]

Do you mean you write fanfiction about them or something? I don't get it.

[LegalLoliLover]

Or just align yourself on their side whenever possible, in games, forums, comments, etc.