Originally Posted by Milbunk
yes medea can do all sorts of cool stuff like Jason World
but your argument is that medea is technique over power
yet from all we've seen, she just throws big blasts of stuff at you. It's a matter of how she chooses to uses her abilities rather than what her abilities are.
Though abandoned, forgotten, and scorned as out-of-date dolls, they continue to carry out their mission, unchanged from the time they were designed.
Machines do not lose their worth when a newer model appears.
Their worth (life) ends when humans can no longer bear that purity.
Don't get me wrong, I do agree that she's very skilled AND unsuited for direct battle (especially outside her Territory), but one thing I've noticed is that a lot of her magical mastery tends to be attributed to her being a sorcerer from the Age of the Gods, not to her own achievements; in contrast, it seems like Avicebron and Paracelsus, for instance, are acknowledged as great magicians by their own deeds even though they're from a comparatively weaker era in terms of magical knowledge. The description in "GO Materials" about how she was actually an average apprentice basically clinched it for me.
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I see that more as an indication of Kanshou and Bakuya's defensive properties.
Granted, one doesn't need Arturia-level M. Res. to fight Medea (or other beam-happy Casters). Isn't there a description for how Cú Chulainn's C-Rank Magic Resistance might seem low, but it's actually enough thanks to his agility and combat skills?
Well no i was more talking about the space freeze thing as one of her other tricks, yet the guy with D MR and D STR still manages to break it just fine.
"An ideal is only an ideal after all. As long as you embrace that ideal, the friction with reality will continue to increase. So you will someday face reality and will have to pay for your compromises"
I-in my defense, its my impression that says so. Blame him.
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Ok srsly though i just now understand what that meant
I said that she is technique because she is indeed able to do cool technique magecraft
But i suppose not using technique younhave in your disposal and play different card rekt you
Medea y u no do comllicated magic instead
she does
to live out her princess fantasies.
just like people who put more work into their hobbies compared to their actual work
Though abandoned, forgotten, and scorned as out-of-date dolls, they continue to carry out their mission, unchanged from the time they were designed.
Machines do not lose their worth when a newer model appears.
Their worth (life) ends when humans can no longer bear that purity.
Then you're some kind of freakish automaton.
are you really happy or is that how they programmed you?
Though abandoned, forgotten, and scorned as out-of-date dolls, they continue to carry out their mission, unchanged from the time they were designed.
Machines do not lose their worth when a newer model appears.
Their worth (life) ends when humans can no longer bear that purity.
Is the tapestry you weave truly of your own design?
freeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeak
It's not Medea's fault that basically 5-6 of the 5th war Servants can't be manipulated as easily as the Masters she basically only uses the sheer power on the Servants anyway an when we see her attacking Masters they basically don't stand a chance. What she uses for technique is mostly the background stuff. (Hijacking the war, summoning a Servant, controlling the city, prepared to use the Grail, The Temple etc.)
And as for the Jason World thing, it was mentioned years ago that she could do RM like stuff so that was really just a confirmation for me.
But when it said she could do it by stacking up small-scale spells or whatever did you ever imagine it meant she literally did it by building a model and hand-painting figurines?
wow, a servant that can overpower a master. so impressive
Nope I'll admit the method was a bit unexpected but the end result is still the same!
It is when you consider that Medea out of all the 5th war servants is a modern magus' worst nightmare.
Oh, that. Well, I don't think STR really mattered there,* or M. Res, for that matter; if I understand it correctly, M. Res. would have stopped the spell from working altogether or mitigated its effects. What Archer did - again, if I understand it correctly - was use his own magical energy to break free from her spell. His MGI is Rank B, and it still took him some time (and preventing Medea from simply re-casting), I doubt it's something Medusa could have done, for instance.
* And, if I'm not mistaken, Nasu said she was capable of rendering Herakles vulnerable by weighing his body down, so I don't think high STR is too much of a problem for her.
It's called a dream job/place that you're happy to work at.
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The translation just said he broke it with his power so i always just assumed it was brute strength, don't know what the original japanese said.
The herc thing was from how they managed to hold him off iirc, and it was that it slowed herc enough that kojirou could fend off herc until illya got bored with the praises being given to kojirou.
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Though honestly i would say a servant who won't get affected by their magic AND can cut of their heads before they could do much else would be worse.
"An ideal is only an ideal after all. As long as you embrace that ideal, the friction with reality will continue to increase. So you will someday face reality and will have to pay for your compromises"
Yeah I could really see that from how she utterly manhandled Rin in their fight. Any of the less amazing servants like Saber or Berserker would have been in real danger, but being a "modern magus' worst nightmare" she had no problems at all.
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