Being a Marvel and Fate fan can be kind of funny sometimes, what do you mean Doctor Doom bagged Morgan Le Fay
Being a Marvel and Fate fan can be kind of funny sometimes, what do you mean Doctor Doom bagged Morgan Le Fay
I wonder if shirou actually received a education in magecraft and didn't get cut up because of a reality marble what kind of accomplishments he could get.
I mean he remade projection to a point where it can reproduce mystery and such, and while that is his reality marble. I wonder if in something like the fate route where he doesn't know it as a reality marble, he would significantly advance projection and structural analysis.
Also what kind of accolades since he can't replicate/preserve mystery.
Why would he "significantly advance projection and structural analysis?" He himself can't advance any insights on either because his own variations are basically not Projection and such as understood by more orthodox mages like Rin.Originally Posted by Mommy247
Shirou's Projections basically have nothing to do with normal Projection:All of his abilities are so tied into UBW, due to it being his Foundation, that its inherent traits affect any magecraft he does.Shirou had spoken of six beats of projection.
As of taking Ergo's mask to hand, he'd mentioned that he'd thought of the six processes he himself [engaged in as of performing] projection.
However, actually witnessing them now, Ergo thought that they were a rather peculiar sequence of procedures.
It was just a matter of his intuition, but whereas the magecraft of Rin and Luvia did in the broad strokes act upon the World, drawing forth phenomena from the Thaumaturgical Foundations of a land, Shirou's felt like they did the exact opposite.
「Material of Composition, Replicate.」
「Techniques of Manufacture, Imitate.」
Shirou as of the Fifth Grail War, who he'd previously [glimpsed in] a vision, had likewise been the same.
Whereas Projection was supposed to be a technique that temporarily fabricated just the external surface of an object using mana alone, it was as if [Shirou] was [doing something] akin to [casually] drawing forth a real [object] from a World [that existed] somewhere ...
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Finishing Paradox Spiral in LN form has been really interesting, when I watched the movie the highlight was undoubtedly Enjou but reading the LNs I have to say the highlight was Araya. Was really interesting understanding his philosophy better and his inner paradox. I used to consider him a lot weaker than the other main Nasuverse Antags but I feel like he’s definitely more comparable now. Very neat character. Also his abilities were pretty fun and easy to understand, shame he got hit with his natural counter (but hey, isn’t that always the case when ya fight an MEoDP user?).
TM antagonists in general have a bad habit of running into ultraspecific hard counters.
It is surprising that Zero didn’t hype up the dangerous potential counter that Lancelot’s Arondight posed as a dragon slaying sword to Astoria (at least in the anime, it probably did get mentioned in text narration or something I imagine).
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I mean he does kinda kick her ass all the way up and down the parking garage when he actually pulls it out, the only reason he lost is cuz Kariya ran out of MP
Yeah, Araya is near incomprehensible in the movie. I don't recall if you've read Oblivion Recorder yet, but there the difference between movie antagonist and novel antagonist is even worse.
Oh man, the movie did Satsuki so dirty.
They did Lio dirty too by cutting out his best bit (his freakout after he kills Mikiya)
I could sort of understand Araya’s deal with a lot of prodding and additional research but overrall Araya was sort of just another “wants to save humanity by killing it” dude in the movies. His general philosophies and goals are far better defined in the novels and they added a lot for me. I loved this idea that he was almost incapable of understanding the good parts of humanity, even when defeated by Enjoe’s love for his family he simply couldn’t accept it and spat out words of derision that all of his talk of familial love was a front for the fact that Enjoe simply wanted to survive. Even when faced with the fact his eternal enemy, the collective will of man, shared his last name he refused to acknowledge his own paradoxes till the end. Even when he was utterly defeated and his philosophies were disproven, he ignored it and said “I’ll continue on the next life”. His KnK Profile says “Araya embodies the “accident of not knowing what is true and false,” and the “accident of not learning the truth that has become common knowledge.” As a result, it is absolute that the paradox will persist until the very end.” I couldn’t agree more. Till the end he never seemed to understand the inherent beauty of humanity.
Well enough waxing philosophy, as for Book 6, yeah I finished it late last night. I was too invested to stop and finished it around 2 in the Morning.
Jesus Christ. What they did to that book was a war crime in the movies. Kurogiri’s such a unique antagonist, idk if I could even really do him justice by trying to sum him up. Unified Language is also such a fun ability. And like… his role is super neutered in the movies. This is gonna bother me forever now lol.
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Oh yeah as for thoughts on the movies vs the books so far, Books 1-4 I think are actually adapted with very minimal to no flaws off the top of my head. Movie 1 is made more actiony and has a bit of filler but it’s understandable considering how short Overlooking View is. The Movies even enhance stuff a good amount, like the sheer scale of Fujino’s destruction of the bridge hits a lot harder with full visual and the OST hitting in the background (Vocal “MAGARE”s also are great). There’s a lot of narration, introspection, and character analysis on the novels that sometimes gets cut but that’s understandable just due to the nature of the different mediums. Reading the LNs did give me a much better understanding of all the characters (Ryougi in particular feels a lot more in line with our other TM MCs now to me in a similar way to Araya with TM Antags). I don’t think 1-4 are required reading after the movies but they’re nice to have for sure.
Movie 5 I can’t really say acts as a substitute for the novel, far too much content and explanation is cut (this is the novel where they explain all the rules and abilities of everybody and it’s just not here in the movie iirc lol), but it’s very unique and cool directorial style allows it to acts as a very welcome accompaniment to the book. Some scenes really are beautifully done in the movie, the destruction of the apartment complex most notably.
Movie 6 is bad. If you like KnK ya owe it to yourself to read the book since they’re effectively just different stories. This will now bother me forever lol.
Murder Specilation (Part 2) and onward is pending lmao.
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I will be genuinely impressed if LN Murder Speculation saves him for me.
I don't think it's that Araya doesn't understand the beauty of humanity (though you could make this argument) as much as it is that the scale of the thing he's looking at is just too different from what Enjou is. Individual love or whatever means nothing to him, he's interested in the totality and reality of humanity's experience.
Hm that’s a fair argument, Araya is definitely a bigger picture person (as is usually the case with TM Antagonists, their goals are on a much grander scale than our protagonists often times). Araya being so caught up in the big picture that he can’t appreciate the smaller aspects of humanity is definitely a part of it.
That being said it does seem like Araya doesn’t just think individual love is nothing to him, but he seems to even go as far as to say it doesn’t exist:
It seems to me that, to Souren, these nice ideas like “I did this for love (of romantic or familial nature)” and other such words of sophistry are just masks and excuses, and that humans have and only ever will act in accordance with their own will to survive. To him, humans are filthy to the core and it doesn’t seem like he thinks these nice morals and ideals people hold are actually real. It’s all just excuses to him. At least that’s what I’m getting.
Murder Speculation Part 2 done. Along with Epilogue.
We’ve still got our two bonus chapters in Future Gospel and Final Record but this is the end of KnK’s main story.
I gained a much greater appreciation for everything that KnK was going for through this. I’m very confident to put it on the same level as Stay Night and Tsukihime now.
My scorching hot take is that KnK is actually Nasu’s most consistently emotional work. I really felt like Nasu was speaking his heart out at all most every line when reading KnK.
Found Ichigozuka sprite while going through mahoyo sprite.
Is it a fanart or was he supposed to be part of vn?
It’s part of the “Adventure of First Love” short story that comes with Magician’s Basic Tune. Iirc it was supposed to be in the game but got cut for time reasons?
What's the context?
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Erice saying she owns a life-sized Rosetta stone plushie in her summer Valentine scene.
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