And now you reminded me of Kiritsugu going ham in narration.Originally Posted by Mcjon01
That still splits my sides in laughter.
And now you reminded me of Kiritsugu going ham in narration.
That still splits my sides in laughter.
Not dealing with it...
Why even try?
This is golden...
takeuchi publicly recommended d-frag, the manga by the same author of sensha otoko
does that make sensha canon???
updated 2019/1/10
it literally and explicitly said that the content of FSN game shouldnt be taken to account in Zero novel
so all in all, i wouldnt count it as ass covering
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Does that mean the contents of FHA should be taken into account then instead?
Yes-no-maybe-sometimes
Asking fans to not autistically pick apart every continuity mistake and enjoy the story as it's own thing is obvious "ass-covering" and just shows that Nasu knows his audience.
nah, i wouldnt count that as one
for me, ass covering is when make excuses about the mistake that is said and done
pre-warning like this is different in my book
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I wouldn't call it ass-covering anyway because of the negative connotations, he's just asking people to not get stuck on unimportant details, and that wouldn't change no matter if it's pre or post mistake.
Oh.
Ok, I got what you mean then.
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Nasu brings it on himself by making a 'in depth' magic system and doing so much exposition.
With the way the keep adding shit to gils vault, soon he will have the root in it.
Life is short, we don't need to shitpost at eachother about nasu.
Or you could just, you know, let it be and understand that there will be inconsistencies and parallel worlds covers that just fine.
continuity in story has nothing to do with magic system and its exposition
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And you miss the point entirely, I mean it invites the mindset to look at the details and nitpick.
With the way the keep adding shit to gils vault, soon he will have the root in it.
Life is short, we don't need to shitpost at eachother about nasu.
Sure but it's not nasu writing, it's urobuchi. The postface made it pretty clear nasu didn't want him to be limited by the stuff in FSN in terms of characters and story. Which is what nasu does with all the writers really, let them write how they want while keeping an eye on the 'in depth' magic stuff.
"An ideal is only an ideal after all. As long as you embrace that ideal, the friction with reality will continue to increase. So you will someday face reality and will have to pay for your compromises"
Did he call it an in-depth magic system or was it your conclusion? Or maybe a conclusion of some fanboy?
As technical as he can get, he still knows where the beating heart of a story is. That's why this forum exists and not because people want to find out if Shiki can kill Servants.
So when you feel like the exposition 'invites' you to do something, wouldn't it be better to focus on what's the important part. At least that's what Nasu actually invites you to do.
Indeed. Half of the point of him detailing things is so he can then subvert his own rules, all for the purpose of writing a better story.
i don't really get what people mean by nasu subverting his rules after establishing them
i think it's more like how someone i think 13uster or Irun once said
the exposition is like someone explaining to you a chess move
and then it is actually used in the story like llike how a grandmaster might make that play
i don't think anyone ever flips the chessboard so to speak.
I was watching guardians 2 with the commentary on and Gunn talks about taking inspiration from the Spy vs Spy comic. Where trump cards are played in a type of tug of war fashion.
IMO, Nasu's battles are kind of like that, but all the trump cards are foreshadowed.
i think one of the best examples of this type of fight would be the Arc route in Tsukihime. With Shiki vs Roa and how Shiki is able to beat him because he killed something that doesn't have life. All the foreshadowing builds up to how Roa and Shiki see different things with their eyes and then you see it executed in a climactic moment.
The Gilgamesh vs Herc fight is also a good example.
Though abandoned, forgotten, and scorned as out-of-date dolls, they continue to carry out their mission, unchanged from the time they were designed.
Machines do not lose their worth when a newer model appears.
Their worth (life) ends when humans can no longer bear that purity.
There's also a difference between, say, proving the story smartypants wrong about projection being a useless skill and actually subverting the rules of the setting. I can't think of any time where something got laid out as fact in side materials or interviews then got overturned by a character in a story.
Obviously, this isn't Umineko after all.
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