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    With Emiya it's fine, it's just seeing Shirou and Tamamo interacting that is exceedingly bizarre.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pinetree View Post
    Seeing Shirou and Tamamo interact in the Shimousa manga weirds me out a lot. It really does.

    If his personality was also Shirou it'd be even weirder. I don't get why it's so weird but it is.
    Id take it up a notch further and say seeing anything of Shirou outside of FSN is pretty jarring. Like, an actual crossover between different works you wouldnt expect to interact.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Imperial View Post
    I'm irritated by the sci-fi creep.

    Go back to urban fantasy!
    100% real facts.

    Either that or just make a new proper sci-fi IP. Go all in or go home, this lukewarm clown cocktail of Fate and scifi aint it, nasu.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Imperial View Post
    I stopped following FGO after Solomon.

    Did they really say the Greek Gods are space mecha?
    technically the forms that we usually associate with them were avatars made by their mecha forms

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    Quote Originally Posted by weeblord View Post
    100% real facts.

    Either that or just make a new proper sci-fi IP. Go all in or go home, this lukewarm clown cocktail of Fate and scifi aint it, nasu.

    why would you go with urban fantasy if FGO 2 is a global ending event level problem?

    and nasu does have specific sci-fi shit. that is why we have Extra. some stuff occasionally ties into that, but that is it
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    They also became more humanoid Divine Spirits post Sefar in normal timelines, so there's that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fire_mountain_30 View Post
    why would you go with urban fantasy if FGO 2 is a global ending event level problem?
    Why should the setting of one story interfere with the setting of other?
    Also, why are talking like there's an inherent benefit to making the stakes less personal?

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    the larger the stakes, the less they matter
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dullahan View Post
    the larger the stakes, the less they matter
    Yeah, I don't know about that.


    here is a list of my servant sheets(new and improved format for my servant sheets)

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    Quote Originally Posted by fire_mountain_30 View Post
    and nasu does have specific sci-fi shit. that is why we have Extra. some stuff occasionally ties into that, but that is it
    extraverse falls very comfortably under "lukewarm clown cocktail of fate and sci-fi". Its not a new proper sci-fi IP, its lol what if Fate happened inside a computer on the moon. And it sucks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the god of world-0 View Post
    Yeah, I don't know about that.
    The sweet spot stakes-wise is something that's really important for the characters, but in a relatable way, and enables character conflict.

    Go too high, and it becomes unrelatable. Go too low, and it becomes trivial.

    Another problem of super high stakes is that their very nature tends to involve tons of characters, so there's a real risk of diluting focus. It's harder to make a story with super high stakes and a reasonably, well-knitted / developed cast (for what little I know about it, FGO doesn't even try)

    High stakes are better when you slowly start building up from something small. Fate route is a good example - only very late in the story it is revealed that world destruction is at stake, and by that time we already know the characters and their motivations well enough.
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    Quote Originally Posted by weeblord View Post
    100% real facts.

    Either that or just make a new proper sci-fi IP. Go all in or go home, this lukewarm clown cocktail of Fate and scifi aint it, nasu.
    Preach

    Quote Originally Posted by fire_mountain_30 View Post
    why would you go with urban fantasy if FGO 2 is a global ending event level problem?

    and nasu does have specific sci-fi shit. that is why we have Extra. some stuff occasionally ties into that, but that is it
    The problem is making it a global ending event level problem in the first place.

    The Holy Grail War was a failed ritual in a magical backwater. The major conflicts of Tsukihime and Kara no Kyoukai revolved around some serial killers, however supernaturally charged they may have been.

    I don't give a rip about Nasu's time-traveling, dimension-hopping, humanity-erasing, husbando-and-waifu-collecting fuck-a-thon.

    Give me intimate stories about damaged people or give me death.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dullahan View Post
    the larger the stakes, the less they matter
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    when all the evils have given up their waifus, all the greats have left for med school, and there are no more at least 3 day battles to be fought what is left is

    not Tsukihime 2
    not DDD3
    not even Girl's Work

    but f/go

    and now f/go english

    that is what is waiting for you at the end of schadenfreude


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    So you guys just want the same kind of story again and again, and F*ck nasu if he wants to do something different.

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    I mean, I understand not being able to relate to the task of saving the world, but there is a difference between something being not relatable and something that doesn't matter.


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    "intimate stories about damaged people" is a very broad category with a lot of potential for new stories. It won't get repetitive any soon.

    But back at the topic of stakes, one aspect no one mentioned yet is how tension happens when the hero side's loss is plausible. If the stakes are the literal end of the world, a loss is never an option, so a reader will never believe it can happen and tension drops to zero. Of course, this kind of tension is not mandatory to any story, you can still make a lot of great stuff without it, but it's always preferable to have.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the god of world-0 View Post
    So you guys just want the same kind of story again and again
    No, thats Nasu.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Comun View Post
    But back at the topic of stakes, one aspect no one mentioned yet is how tension happens when the hero side's loss is plausible.
    ...Was anyone thinking, even for a single second, that the hero side was going to lose in any of Nasu stories? really?
    Because you are too young. Or too stupid. Or both.

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    The stakes nasu stories are never about winning or losing, they are about what needs to sacrificed 9n the way to victory.


    here is a list of my servant sheets(new and improved format for my servant sheets)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Herod View Post
    ...Was anyone thinking, even for a single second, that the hero side was going to lose in any of Nasu stories? really?
    what are hero's side in TM, are the MC even a hero?

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