Well, i think those were his first ideas, but as he learned more about the modern world he started wearing pants, paying for things and playing video games. Maybe he'd settle for climbing the Everest. Things like buying B-2s always struck me as trying to highlight his disconnect from modern age, not knowing how much things cost etc.
I'm not saying it's a bad thing, just that the fanbase tends to skim over those more unpleasant traits of his. Richard the Lionheart from FSF is a more in-your-face version of this.
Originally Posted by Deathhappens
Despite his love of things in things in the modern world, Iskandar remained resolutely the same person he always was, and as a static character, he facilitated the growth of Waver. I mean sure, we got that bit with him realizing what his Okeanos was, but it's more a bookend to his first and second lives as opposed to any dynamic character development.
What???
Binged All Of Gundam In 4 Years, 1 Week and All I Got Was This Stupid Mask
FF XIV: Walked to the End
Started Legend of the Galactic Heroes (14/07/23), pray for me.
"lolololol, being good sucks".
Because you are too young. Or too stupid. Or both.
Isn't the whole point of Iskandar and Gil hitting it off to kind of symbolize that Iskandar is by no means any great moral compass? Unless we're talking about fan reaction and not the writing. In that case fans have ignored worse traits in the franchise before, this isn't a first.
That can't be it, those examples are too specific. Especially since the only historical whitewashing Persona has done is giving Hitler some bitching shades. Well also that time Rasputin was actually a robotic time tourist on vacation from the 25th century, but he was still a huge prick there. Christmas Carole exists solely on Scrooge being a huge prick at the start of the story, so he never gets toned down either unless it's like the Muppet version or something.
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Binged All Of Gundam In 4 Years, 1 Week and All I Got Was This Stupid Mask
FF XIV: Walked to the End
Started Legend of the Galactic Heroes (14/07/23), pray for me.
Pretty sure Iskandar doesnt like Gil personally, he only respects him as king.
Spoiler:
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I didn't mean hitting it off as in affection, but getting along in a friendly manner.
I don't think that's the sort of thing that counts as Alchemy really.
If anything it's more like how Gilles can make dead fiends and blood explode into gory mist by how magical energy works, rather than any knowledge of any magic or ability to use spells. At what point is it just mixing stuff with innate properties, and when does it become actually tapping into foundations, occult meanings and the attributes of a magus?
Transforming stuff is probably within nature interference, and so is adding various properties to alchemical creations.
There's also the fact that magic circuits sort of are good for information stuff too.
No matter how much you study, you're kind of less useful than a easily made familiar if you don't have the capacity to be an actual practitioner or magus I feel.
He'd be good at working with Mikiya as somewhat magic world weirdo detectives tho.
I mean atlas count as magi and they cant tap into foundations it seems
Was there an addendum that said due to Avalon, it was firmly put towards "close combat weaponry" because I thought I heard that before.
Its like how he says Sakura's natural element changed to Water, instead of Imaginary Element (Hollow) but then says she can use her familiars outside of being blackened when people speculate on her forcing her natural power(when she used her power in Hollow there were parts about circuits suited for IN magecraft she "forced" to the surface).
It was ill defined then, and its got Nasu's patented "I'll create mechanics primarily as conversational pieces, but don't like to give solid definitions" again. Since when we talk about that, it ends up being speculated that she lost Imaginary Element for Water until another force "woke" it back up, when it sounds like it was suppressed and even then that's ill defined, because in HF Sakura doesn't seem surprised about the expression of her power (through a shadow), but only on the range it has now, which wouldn't make sense if it was always gone for most of her life. Only for AM to wake it up
The idea of one's defining nature being able to be manipulated is fascinating, but I think for the most part Nasu uses it as a cool concept, rather than having a concrete mechanics system, its very specialized with more case by case basis and very general "commonly known" mechanics in magic.
That might have been the same part that talked about how projecting shields and armor was doable but cost three times more
I think Gen just looked it up online without thinking too hard. "Iskandar" is Middle Persian and appears to be derived from "Alexander." An Old Persian name derived from "Alexandros" would probably look a lot different.
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O walls, you have held up so much tedious graffiti that I am amazed you have not already collapsed in ruin.
Shower thought, isnt magecraft due to how true magic is defined kinda a very open system, What i mean is that with how magecraft and true magic kinda define one another, doesnt that mean magecraft is actually a really open/soft system since its defined more like 'here are the things it CANT do' then things it can do.
Aka harry potter vs mistborn magic systems
Mistborn magic system is more 'here are the specific uses magic can do' vs harry potter 'magic can do many things, except x or y'
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The Nasuverse always had a more intricate soft magic system, since the rules are intricate yet ill-defined, and they are defined more by the narrative than the other way round.
That being said, what True Magic is, at least in concept, fairly well defined. It's a miracle in the AoM that cannot be replicated by science.
Magic is NFT's!
NFTs is just what my mind jumps to now a days at the statement, cannot be replicated
Yes, magecraft is very much designed to be flexible. It's a thing make to fit in and enable any plot, unlike magics, that are so absurd that generally need the entire plot to revolve around them.
Of course do you think there is a difference between lots of details and actual intricacy? if that makes sense
As i feel like nasu magic falls on the former than the latter, like I remember how I heard that in mistborn the writer made such a detailed magic system that the fans were able to correctly guess how the gaps in the system work, not sure if thats true or not though.
The concept of true magic is well defined, but the true magic themselves i feel are not well defined, mainly the 2nd and fifth
Reason why I brought it up is due to me thinking about how some people say nasu magic is hard and I just think to my above definition.
Reminds me a lot of when Part 1 of the Sixth Lostbelt came out and some people were questioning why the place names were still all in English. My advice from then stands now which is "don't sweat the small details or you'll give yourself a headache".
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