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    Should've cited 『産業社会とその未来』 instead

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    It kind of makes me wonder how many potencial species could've stuck around to the modern day had the Holy Church also not aided in eliminating them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sione View Post
    Should've cited 『産業社会とその未来』 instead
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    Quote Originally Posted by Temflakes403 View Post
    I imagine the lack of scientific ethics, along with the disregard for the scientific process, would be enough to count it out as science. I could flip through Kim Kardashian's instagram for 2 hours and 36 minutes, in order to ascertain how many bajillion dollars I would like to earn more than her. That could count as research. That does not count for the scientific process.


    Lack of ethics does not make something not a science, and yes i know of unethical shit like unit 731 and such that was more sadism than producing any scientific results.

    For example HeLa

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    The standards for science are ever changing and should not include that which is unethical.
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    Remember kids, it's SCIENCE! as long as you take notes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Altima of the Gates View Post
    Isn't the only difference between what's considered supernatural and what's scientific is that you have the documented and peer reviewed foundations in science, while the systems inherent to the supernatural aren't all known?
    At the end of the day, magi behave like researchers, so wouldn't that be a science? Or are we speaking purely in universe on what's science and what's supernatural for the conversation, as in mystery vs. science.
    Isn't a big difference that thatumaturgy can outright ignore physics, while science can't?

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    I remember reading a description of magecraft back in the day that summarised basically said "Magic can achieve anything science can irrespective of time or resources." So while a scientist might be able to build a big ass laser to burn a hole through steel, it will ultimately take time, effort and material resources/money to complete. Whereas a mage that knows the right spell can cast "Granpa's Old Fashioned Face Melter" just by reciting a couple of words.
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    The inverse can happen too. Why waste mana to use eye enhancement spell when you can just use a telescope?

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    When you don't have it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sione View Post
    The inverse can happen too. Why waste mana to use eye enhancement spell when you can just use a telescope?
    Frankly, I have sometimes found it odd that mages would scorn technology when it can be used to help save their reserves or not waste Ether on something small.

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    #NotAllMages

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    Super common trope in a lot of works, usually said by cranky old men, like "magic must defeat magic" or "don't be too proud of this technological terror you've created"... Well, not just cranky old men, in the case of Charmed. "Fireballs and firearms don't mix", which is objectively untrue even without magic, such as with flamethrowers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LegalLoliLover View Post
    Super common trope in a lot of works, usually said by cranky old men, like "magic must defeat magic" or "don't be too proud of this technological terror you've created"... Well, not just cranky old men, in the case of Charmed. "Fireballs and firearms don't mix", which is objectively untrue even without magic, such as with flamethrowers.
    Isnt the magic must defeat magic idea your quoting is from fucking jackie chan adventures, and wasnt the logic of it usually like shit could cause massive imbalances which would allow other things to rise? or that was part of it as i recall uncle got mad at shendu being dealt with tin the way they did allowing the other demons to appear

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    Wow, you're good. And the other one was Vader from Star Wars.
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    As much as I think Alf Layla wa-Layla is a cool NP I wish they hadn't just shoved all of the Arabian Nights into it because it means we're unlikely to ever see figures like Ali Baba or Sinbad as Servants, and I think cool stuff could have been done with them.

    Technically I guess there's nothing stopping it in the same way there's nothing stopping Ionioi Hetairoi or Rounds of Lionheart characters from being more fleshed out, but I do think it makes it much more unlikely.

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    Also I know it's beating a 5 year old dead horse but Scheherezade's character was done dirty.

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    I mean, one of the people in Rounds of Lionheart is Robin Hood, so
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    He's just putting the bone of his sword into other people until it explodes and lets out parts of him inside them.
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    Genderswaps are terrible, but I think I and other people would hate them less if Fate didn't keep ignoring actual heroines throughout history and folklore. Like, why bother turning Francis Drake into a woman when Ching Shih and Grace O'Malley exist?
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    Fate Zero is just Fate Stay Night for people who think Shirou is too girly

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    Technically yes I guess, but a different Robin

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