The Type-Moon Miscellaneous Thoughts Thread

[Mattias]

Leo would have died a lot sooner.

[madarra]

What would have happened if male Shiki survived instead of female Shiki?

Probably the same crying and clawing at identity that we already got

[Dullahan]

Leo would have died a lot sooner.

Does not follow.

[Random]

Probably the same crying and clawing at identity that we already got

Female Shiki acts masculine because male Shiki is dead... Therefore, if female Shiki died...

Uncaught exception. Random has encountered a fatal error and needs to close.

[Byegod]

Had a dream of this website, was some like lore discussion

and it was something about these two dolls, one was supposed to be michaelangelo. but my dream decided to spell it fucking Michelego or something like that

[Random]

That's because the Michelangelo one was made of Lego. Totally canon, by the way.

[Byegod]

Watching videos on old anime and japanese tv.

Seeing the whole delinquent schoolgirl mini genre that existed in the 80s-90s i cant help but wonder if that influenced kara no kyoukai

[Dartz]

I wonder if other TAs also have Principles. We know in Arc's case it's　極点　and the confiscation of textures is only a biproduct of the massive energy density. As opposed to it being related to MP or another special ability.
Obviously other TA won't have 極点 as their Principle, but could they potentially have a different kind of Principle?

[asterism42]

altrouge probly has one

[Petrikow]

Most vampires probably do.

I do wonder if Arc's Principle is the same as CM's though.

[LegalLoliLover]

Looking at Fate/zero's feast of kings, I really wanted Nobu to be a participant... Also, we need a Servant Cao Cao, if for no other reason than this:

[Byegod]

think they relate to origins in some way

remind me the idea of some franchises where if awakened or they have the proper conditions to awaken someting

Like stands

(to petrikow and co)

[Dartz]

It's a pretty interesting concept. I'd love to see CM's Principle and if it's the same as Arc's, Altrouge's too, because to be honest I can't even imagine a more broken Principle than 極点.
Reminds me of those people making calculations for Goku and Superman and giving them a specific number with lots of 0, and then there is 極点, where energy itself cannot get any denser. Though for that very reason it seems very unwieldy and kinda useless if you don't have access to a near infinite supply of energy.

[Nanaya]

As opposed to it being related to MP or another special ability.

Event Storage is seemingly an ability that TA possess which is explicitly related to MP though.

Most vampires probably do.

I do wonder if Arc's Principle is the same as CM's though.

This ain't the Spoiler thread.

TA are so closely related to CM that I'd expect them all to have one or be able to have one like DA. I don't know about his principle being the same but I wouldn't be surprised given their connection as an exception to the rule that Principles are unique. Though I would lean to it being different given how unique she is in other ways.
What's up with his IB and Successors. You would think this would be Alt and Arc but maybe not considering Alt is also her own DAA.
Maybe the special nature of the 27 IB will end up being something like CM originally gave 27 DA his super cursed blood that got passed down as a crystallization of power.

[Dartz]

Event Storage is seemingly an ability that TA possess which is explicitly related to MP though.

Spoiler:

Hmm, are you sure about that? Can you provide your reasoning? I was pretty sure event storage was a byproduct of densely packed energy.
When Arc used event storage Roa called it her Principle. The scene where we see the Luminary forming and the energy was stated to be compresed to planck length it also says it's a type of Principle. So based on the above the singularity-like properties of event storage seem to be tied to the energy density rather than MP (which seems a bit of an unrelated ability?). I think other TAs do the same thing, it's just in their case they likely can't reach the smallest point of energy so they don't have the Focality/Extremum Principle. But I'd love to hear your thoughts. Maybe I'm missing something.

[asterism42]

Event Storage: The ability to conceptually and physically store things that have been cultivated on the surface of Earth. The confiscation of all creations birthed on the surface of the planet—its Textures. An ability on par with the Divine Spirits’ so-called ‘Authority’, though given that it’s a function possessed by the planet, it is less of a skill, and more of a system. The gravitational sphere that appears under Arcueid’s feet when she has turned into a Luminary has enough of a reach to store all Textures on Earth. An ability of the True Ancestors, the planet's sense of touch. The conceptual and physical storage of things reared on the planet's surface. Every creature that has appeared on the face of the planet——it is something that requisitions textures

I think this is from one of the data books

[Nanaya]

Spoiler:

Hmm, are you sure about that? Can you provide your reasoning? I was pretty sure event storage was a byproduct of densely packed energy.
When Arc used event storage Roa called it her Principle. The scene where we see the Luminary forming and the energy was stated to be compresed to planck length it also says it's a type of Principle. So based on the above the singularity-like properties of event storage seem to be tied to the energy density rather than MP (which seems a bit of an unrelated ability?). I think other TAs do the same thing, it's just in their case they likely can't reach the smallest point of energy so they don't have the Focality/Extremum Principle. But I'd love to hear your thoughts. Maybe I'm missing something.

Spoiler:

Her Cube in Melty Blood is called Marble Phantasm-Event Storage. Her castle, which is manifested through MP shows up during the (initial)/'Gentle' event storage scene in ciel true route where she's turning the world inside out and replacing the texture. And the entry for Event Storage does make it sound like it's something TA are naturally equipped with as part of their design. Though the world wide version is probably ... Arc only.

[Dartz]

Spoiler:

Maybe I'm getting too hang up on the fact it works like a black hole, and even the name seems to derive from it.
But MP does seem like a different ability though. Though they can be used concurrently. I mean MP can't affect humans directly whereas event storage very much does

[Petrikow]

Spoiler:

Hmm, are you sure about that? Can you provide your reasoning? I was pretty sure event storage was a byproduct of densely packed energy.
When Arc used event storage Roa called it her Principle. The scene where we see the Luminary forming and the energy was stated to be compresed to planck length it also says it's a type of Principle. So based on the above the singularity-like properties of event storage seem to be tied to the energy density rather than MP (which seems a bit of an unrelated ability?). I think other TAs do the same thing, it's just in their case they likely can't reach the smallest point of energy so they don't have the Focality/Extremum Principle. But I'd love to hear your thoughts. Maybe I'm missing something.

Ciel Route Day 14

When Arcueid initiates it she says this:

“これこそは真祖の力。
This is the power of the True Ancestors.
星の触覚として地表を思うままに作り変える空想具現化。
We Touch of the Planet can freely alter the surface of the earth through our Marble Phantasm.
もうこの街はおしまいだ。
This city is done for.
この領域はおしまいだ。
This region is done for.
建物も生き物も変換される。
Both buildings and beings are to be converted.
四次元から二次元に潰されて呑み込まれる。
They will be crushed, consumed from the fourth to second dimensions.
事象変換から事象収納。
From Event Conversion to Event Storage.
その後に来るものはおまえたちを見限って移り変わった星の内海。
And what comes after is the Inner Sea of the Planet, then having forsaken you, and changed completely.
讃えよ。畏れよ。跪き死に備えよ。
Celebrate it. Fear it. Kneel, and embrace your death.
さあ―――あともう一押しで、おまえの世界が裏返るぞ！”
Now, just a little bit more, and your world will turn inside out!

[Dartz]

Hmm, I see. Let's go with that then.