The Type-Moon Miscellaneous Thoughts Thread

[Reign]

My Room quotes:

I'd never have thought that I would burden that homunculus that much…… I did something inexcusable. No, for the person himself, that is pride? If it can't be stopped, at least cut open a path with this demonic sword.

I never had the chance to converse much with you. But, there is no doubt that my current self and volition, being as it is now, is all thanks you. Thank you, Siegfried --- I don’t know what else I can possibly say.

And I'm sure they had inteactions in the Apo event but I don't remember specifics. A Christmas CE shows them gift shopping together.

[Lily Emilio]

It still baffles my fucking mind, that in a mix between a badass but depressed battle loving warrior who trained a great and legendary Hero like Cu Chulainn, and a female GIANT goddess of skiing and hunting, they got a uwu christmas cake who is obsessed between either loving or killing someone.

I...I just can't comprehend how you fuck something like that up so badly. How do you go from shit like Artoria and Musashi to abominations like Boudicca and Scathac=Skadi.

I think the recent Calamity Jane is also pretty bad.

[Nobody]

I think the recent Calamity Jane is also pretty bad.

I read none of the Space Ishtar event. Her shtick is that she pretends to be moronic and ditsy to cope with her immortality or something, right?

Just a balls to walls fanfic called Calamity Jane, honestly.

[Rafflesiac]

Rather than pretends it's more like forced herself to be.

[Reign]

She's dumb but being a Servant Universe character means she isnt the "real" Calamity Jane.

We're unlikely to ever see the real Calamity Jane but, still.

[Comun]

She's dumb as a rock because after some millenia she got tired of thinking. I would say "an excuse as terrible as the rest of her character", but thinking about it, I don't think there is anything else to her character.

[Rafflesiac]

does sex appeal count as a character trait

[weeblord]

She's dumb but being a Servant Universe character means she isnt the "real" Calamity Jane.

We're unlikely to ever see the real Calamity Jane but, still.

I really dont like this recent trend of getting alternate universe servants instead of a more normal representation of the servant, be it servant universe meme trash or more serious lost belt ones.

at least vagabond man still has a tiny chance of making it, but im not really holding my breath.

[Dullahan]

This is misguided. It is very easy - we might say that TM have deliberately made it easy - to get caught up in the question concerning whether a given servant is a more or less correct representation of its source material. but this is really a meaningless rabbit-hole which only feeds back into the notion of 'representation' Fate is suffused with. what must be questioned is precisely this general concept and structure of 'representation' within which - regardless of whether it's an "alternate universe" or "normal" servant - people make these judgements of accuracy/inaccuracy. how does Fate 'represent' in the first place? this is the question. and if you can't figure out how to answer this question intelligently, you'll either get caught up in pointless nit-picking debates - or worse, you'll start making servant sheets for Caster Anne Frank with no visible irony

[asterism42]

For lostbelt Servants, I kinda assume their panhuman selves are more or less the same person, just minus the weird lostbelt stuff.

Like 'our' QSH is basically the same minus the whole immortal computer deal.

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Junao and Arjuna are pretty similar, after all

[Comun]

at least vagabond man still has a tiny chance of making it, but im not really holding my breath.

Musashi's mats puts all of his info in the same set of pages as hers, so that's pretty much a complete deconfirmation.

[weeblord]

Musashi's mats puts all of his info in the same set of pages as hers, so that's pretty much a complete deconfirmation.

How could they do this to me

[Gray]

I'm still sad at the missing chance of Lancer Bedivere, despite how the Airgetlam is pretty cool in my eyes.

[Skull]

I'm still sad at the missing chance of Lancer Bedivere, despite how the Airgetlam is pretty cool in my eyes.

Hopefully, Hopefully we still might get a chance to see Panhuman Bedivere in a non-FGO source such as if they ever animated Prototype/Fragments and thus showed Arthur's flashbacks in greater detail than just the single image of Arthur clashing with Lucius.

[Hakuno]

Hopefully, Hopefully we still might get a chance to see Panhuman Bedivere in a non-FGO source

Mordred's flashback in Apocrypha?

[Skull]

Mordred's flashback in Apocrypha?

I didn't waste my time watching Apocrypha.

[Yggdrasil]

I didn't waste my time watching Apocrypha.

Garden of Avalon?

[Laserman]

So it turns out there were 20 volumes of the original Fate/Stay Night Manga. I only got to read 8 of them though, but Viz Media lists 10 of them. I wish I could finish it, it's how I got into Fate after all.

[Deathhappens]

I think Nasu's writing is better off when he isn't writing around an existing person, but is allowed to go all out into weirdness. Elizabeth Bathory and her clone army have never had more than cursory attachment to the historic personality, and they're much better off for it. On the contrary, Florence Nightingale is a frankenstein of a character because the real person's achievements and life just don't mesh with what the story wants out of the character at all.

[AmADo VII]

I think Nasu's writing is better off when he isn't writing around an existing person, but is allowed to go all out into weirdness. Elizabeth Bathory and her clone army have never had more than cursory attachment to the historic personality, and they're much better off for it. On the contrary, Florence Nightingale is a frankenstein of a character because the real person's achievements and life just don't mesh with what the story wants out of the character at all.

but FSN sells more than Tsukihime.