The Type-Moon Miscellaneous Thoughts Thread

[King of Padoru]

Ovid's version of this story (Heroides 9) has Heracles under the erotic control of Iole. She specifically has Heracles wear women's clothing and perform women's work.

Thanks Wikipedia, I can't unsee now

[Laserman]

I would love for this to actually happen.

Yoshiyuki Nishi decided to draw some Fate/Grand Order characters again.
This time it's Dr.Roman along with Oda Nobunaga and he colored the Shuten-Doji picture.

[hayate]

Now I know why there are jellyfishes in Heaven's Feel.

Can't believe I forgot the quote from the story where one character said jellyfishes are quite the robust life form and that one species of jellyfishes are considered immortal.

They made a callback from Tsuki no Sango and I didn't even realize it.

[You]

that's tsukihime

[hayate]

that's tsukihime

Wait, not Tsuki no Sango?

So the translated Tsuki no Sango only copied those lines from Tsukihime?

Welp

Also, I think I know why some of the Servants of the protagonists in Fate/Grand Order remember some of the incidents that happened between them.

They have talked about their bond with Servants and how the protagonist has a 100% affinity to be a Master...

I think this is how the protagonist remembers them that the Servants remember what they did during those times.

Perfect example of that is Yu Miaoyi. Normally a Servant in a Holy Grail War will not remember such trivial things. But since the protagonist remembers her as "Akuta Hinako" and not as historical Yu Miaoyi, the Yu Miaoyi that they have summoned remembers the time that she had with Chaldea, grudge and all.

Another one would be Artoria Pendragon. She remembers the time that she had with EMIYA since the protagonist remembers her as the Servant that Shirou summoned, not as Artoria Pendragon.

Third will be Avicebron since he remembers what he did in Apocrypha when normally he should not remember. And the list goes on.

[You]

There already exists something close to perfection which can function independently in perpetuity.
It feeds on itself and multiplies. It has no such thing as a lifespan. Old cells become food as nutrients and new cells are produced from it.
Such as a jellyfish.
However, it is perpetual only because it has no intelligence.
If having no intelligence is fine, then it is no different from gaining eternity by death.

“By the way, you said that jellyfish are powerful. Why?”
I asked him my first question.
“This happened quite a long time ago, but a relative of the jellyfish managed to solve the fundamental
biological problem of aging through cell death. It is one of the few life forms that has managed to attain
immortality. As such, jellyfish are, contrary to what you may expect, quite a robust life form.”

Since Tsuki no sango is supposed to be Tsukihime 3000, its no surprise Nasu reused that metaphor

[madarra]

Perfect example of that is Yu Miaoyi. Normally a Servant in a Holy Grail War will not remember such trivial things. But since the protagonist remembers her as "Akuta Hinako" and not as historical Yu Miaoyi, the Yu Miaoyi that they have summoned remembers the time that she had with Chaldea, grudge and all.

Another one would be Artoria Pendragon. She remembers the time that she had with EMIYA since the protagonist remembers her as the Servant that Shirou summoned, not as Artoria Pendragon.

Third will be Avicebron since he remembers what he did in Apocrypha when normally he should not remember. And the list goes on.

i thought by design servants are supposed to remember everything before death. and Yu only died ....2-3 hours before being summoned

and servants are supposed to get post mortem info as books to read while waiting in-between summons, so Saber once read this book about herself where she finds herself this nice husbando so she remembers it, and Avicebron remembers reading this book about himself that made him greatly disgusted with his own action so he also remembers it. By extension Jeanne read a book about a Husbando so great she ran away from home to find him.

like,imagine if all the books you read had a self-insert protag with a self-insertion index of 99-100%

[hayate]

i thought by design servants are supposed to remember everything before death. and Yu only died ....2-3 hours before being summoned

and servants are supposed to get post mortem info as books to read while waiting in-between summons, so Saber once read this book about herself where she finds herself this nice husbando so she remembers it, and Avicebron remembers reading this book about himself that made him greatly disgusted with his own action so he also remembers it. By extension Jeanne read a book about a Husbando so great she ran away from home to find him.

like,imagine if all the books you read had a self-insert protag with a self-insertion index of 99-100%

They do remember everything of their past life.

One thing the Chaldea summoning system and the Holy Grail War system of Fuyuki differs is that the Fuyuki one designed Servants to only let them "know" of the modern world, not let them remember the summoning of their past selves of previous wars unless said Servant is Saber of the 4th and 5th Holy Grail War.

Chaldea's is more of a curious case. I really don't know how that mad man did it.

[madarra]

memories were probably turned off for Fuyuki system because if not, the moment you`d summon same servant twice, they`d know your plan is to murder them in the end,not give them a wish,
while Chaldea doesnt plan to murder them in the end or lie to them with the promise of a wish, so it doesnt care if they remember slight bits about the past

[Kotonoha]

Yu didn't even die.

[hayate]

Yu didn't even die.

Didn't say she died.

After all, they summoned a copy of Abby even though she's alive in that singularity.

Everyone that Chaldea summons after them are copies.

[Tobias]

Yu didn't even die.

Not yet but I do have a good life insurance policy just in case, it’s good to be careful.

[Sandstorm77]

memories were probably turned off for Fuyuki system because if not, the moment you`d summon same servant twice, they`d know your plan is to murder them in the end,not give them a wish,
while Chaldea doesnt plan to murder them in the end or lie to them with the promise of a wish, so it doesnt care if they remember slight bits about the past

Iirc someone mentioned that Strange fake cleared up that blocking memories of the current summoning is basically the default setting for the summoning. Which makes sense since everyone knowing exactly what’s gonna happen will cause problems.

[madarra]

is there any Grail war in any spin off that wasnt a Blind copy of Fuyuki? possibly blindly copying all its limitations and safety measures

besides Chaldea?

[Deathhappens]

By extension Jeanne read a book about a Husbando so great she ran away from home to find him.

This amuses Us greatly.

[SirGauoftheSquareTable]

is there any Grail war in any spin off that wasnt a Blind copy of Fuyuki? possibly blindly copying all its limitations and safety measures

besides Chaldea?

Not really? There isn't really any other system to copy besides maybe the Moon Cell's, and that's not an option in non-Extra worlds. Fuyuki is the only option for the most part.

Even Chaldea's is inspired by Fuyuki, though combined with their own tech.
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Iirc someone mentioned that Strange fake cleared up that blocking memories of the current summoning is basically the default setting for the summoning. Which makes sense since everyone knowing exactly what’s gonna happen will cause problems.

FSF also mentioned that the World will make it so the Servant has some reason to wish for the Grail.

[SpoonyViking]

Neither Diarmuid nor Cú Chulainn had any wish for the Grail. One just wanted to faithfully serve a lord, the other just wanted to fight to the fullest.

[SirGauoftheSquareTable]

Neither Diarmuid nor Cú Chulainn had any wish for the Grail. One just wanted to faithfully serve a lord, the other just wanted to fight to the fullest.

On the surface. The way Richard put it, even if they don't have a wish for the Grail, the World might take information from another possible version that did or eventually the Servant may find a reason or something. It was confusing when I read it, and I still don't quite understand it.

[Lily Emilio]

Neither Diarmuid nor Cú Chulainn had any wish for the Grail. One just wanted to faithfully serve a lord, the other just wanted to fight to the fullest.

It's funny how these wishes are also Karna's wishes. Lancers think alike.

[Strange_One]

Perhaps any wish that a summonsing could technically fulfil would suffice.

Haven't there been a few of those, Emiya-kun?