I like the idea that Ritsuka's mage ability is allowing them to change gender (and related clothes) at will.
I like the idea that Ritsuka's mage ability is allowing them to change gender (and related clothes) at will.
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The one thing I love from all this Kadoc hatting is that the people who ragged on him would probably do worse than him in being humanity's last master.Originally Posted by All fictions
Even now Zouken's backstory still feels like that imo, so much that seeing Zouken played as the tragic villain is the biggest reason why the London Singularity didn't work for me.
Kirei kept on a stoic demeanor while Zouken made a point of being as gleeful about his evil as possible.
We are conditioned to better accept a tragic background for someone who is low key and collected about their evil in comparison to someone who openly cackles and taunts about their sadism.
There's also the fact Zouken's evil, by its ties to Sakura's backstory, carries an undercurrent of forced sexuality that makes it especially uncomfortable for most compared to Kirei's far less... rape-y approach to wrongdoing.
If Kirei had spent the last yen years raping Rin he'd be as unacceptable as Zouken for most, except for the most utterly extreme of his fanbase.
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Ritsuka could easily be replaced by a camera which occasionally gets smooched and has a post-it-note saying "You can do it Mash!" attached to the side. Shielder is the main protagonist if anyone is. She's the one with a character arc and direct connections to the main villains. Certainly in the back half of part one she was really the one holding up the emotional side of things.
"We have entered an infinite recursion of Saber."
Manaka is just drunk on power and love.
broken by love has been Kinoko's thing since Tsukihime.
Manaka is broken (powerlevels) and in love (nominally), there is no correlation involved.
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Well...Kirei did pretty much torture and let rot a bunch of orphans for 10 years in between Zero & Stay Night.
Though I guess it helps they're not named characters that we see beyond a scene in the epilogue of the Zero manga where he shows the smiling orphans he took the church's basement.
Might make one think he was a pedophile...
As for Guda, I do kind of like them more in the mangas, like the Shimousa one. Though perhaps that's hypocritical of me since for all I know, they're still a generic nice guy/girl there.
At least, admittedly I feel they're more of a character in the mangas vs the gacha game.
To be fair, isn't Shirou kind of like that, in that as long as you actually aren't doing evil/dickish things he'll be kind of friendly/neutral toward you? Assuming you did that stuff in the past.
Admittedly I can't ever imagine Shirou tolerating say Bluebeard for example.
But I mean he seems okay with say, Medea in say Ataraxia or Gohan, and she kind of went overboard on the draining of lifeforce from townspeople IIRC. Or Cu and his butchering of that family (though Shirou may not have connected the dots there).
Or is the issue more that "they're my best friend even if they're still doing horrible things currently!"?
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That’s perfectly understandable, since manga Fujimaru has real dialogue. It’s still not having a personality but it’s a big improvement nonetheless.
Yeah. There are real conversations, not just a pair of choices where Guda just responds instead of really "talking."
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This is how I feel, I do feel this is a problem for a lot of nasu villians (cough cough kiara/araya)
but that's your problem isn't it.
The Zouken we meet in Zero/SN is a gleefully evil husk who fucks people over because he dislikes them (Kariya), because he's jealous of them (Tokiomi) and tangentially because they might help advance his goal (Sakura). Whatever tragic past he might have had in getting there stopped mattering when he started being evil for the fun of it.
shit BL says
Once and always and nevermore.
Araya works because you really don't see much of him before, so it just feels like part of his character that is being presented to us.
But we had already read about Zouken for hours at that point, his character was already solidly established with no hint of there being more to it, so it ends up feeling really forced.
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Yeah, that pretty much sums it up for me.
Shirou can at least acknowledge that someone is evil. Like, he doesn't try and redeem Kirei before he explode the dagger in his chest, or talk down Gil or Medea after their first appearance, when they make their positions clear.
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They seem to be everything to everyone.they are similar to scathach, marta's little sister, medeas little brother, ozys siblings, artoria, angra and mikiya.
They have the warmth of Ayaka, they are TROYA and they are ROMA and they are anchin and also the reincarnation of sigurd and also just an ordinary japanese nobody.
they grope servants regardless of if they like it or not, they belittle some servants and change their personality based on what servant they are talking to, but they are also straight-forward and pure of heart.
they speak in memes and can become close with any servant whether they are a hero or anti-hero and on valentines day they get chocolate from every servant.
saber lily says its thanks to guda the sword chose her and that she gets courage just by them being near her,
and siegfried says he wouldn't hate them even if they stabbed him in the back.
caesar will grant them his favor whenever, and they made altera want to do things other than destroying things, and d'eon says they will show their dress that they no longer wear to guda especially.
Gil says he'll get serious for their sake, and robin hood says they're even more stubborn than him and it's ok for them to touch atalante.
euryale says she loves them though not as much as sthenon,
arash says they're suited for horse-riding,
boudica says she loves them.
alexander wants them to be his teacher,
medea says they are good handling servants and pure of heart,
andersen who hates humans says he'll write their story,
kojiro says it feels good to be ordered by them,
cursed arm says they're the greatest master and that they were born to protect them,
sanson says they have eyes that can clear doubts and are true and just.
carmilla is okay with them touvhing her and vlad says he could spend an eternity with them and never be bored.
nobu says they have talent and compares them to hideyoshi angra says they are contrary and like him, etc, etc, this goes on for about 20 more lines somebody who's better at translating please help
Which is contradictory in some places from what I'm seeing here.
Like this feels contradictory:
they grope servants regardless of if they like it or not, they belittle some servants and change their personality based on what servant they are talking to, but they are also straight-forward and pure of heart.
Oh ive seen this, its a jp image listing all the character traits and how contradictory they are right?
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they are similar to scathach, marta's little sister, medeas little brother, ozys siblings, artoria, angra and mikiya.They have the warmth of Ayaka, they are TROYA and they are ROMA and they are anchin and also the reincarnation of sigurd and also just an ordinary japanese nobody. they grope servants regardless of if they like it or not, they belittle some servants and change their personality based on what servant they are talking to, but they are also straight-forward and pure of heart. they speak in memes and can become close with any servant whether they are a hero or anti-hero and on valentines day they get chocolate from every servant. saber lily says its thanks to guda the sword chose her and that she gets courage just by them being near her, and siegfried says he wouldn't hate them even if they stabbed him in the back. caesar will grant them his favor whenever, and they made altera want to do things other than destroying things, and d'eon says they will show their dress that they no longer wear to guda especially. Gil says he'll get serious for their sake, and robin hood says they're even more stubborn than him and it's ok for them to touch atalante. euryale says she loves them though not as much as sthenon, arash says they're suited for horse-riding, boudica says she loves them. alexander wants them to be his teacher, medea says they are good handling servants and pure of heart, andersen who hates humans says he'll write their story, kojiro says it feels good to be ordered by them, cursed arm says they're the greatest master and that they were born to protect them, sanson says they have eyes that can clear doubts and are true and just. carmilla is okay with them touvhing her and vlad says he could spend an eternity with them and never be bored. nobu says they have talent and compares them to hideyoshi angra says they are contrary and like him, etc, etc, this goes on for about 20 more lines somebody who's better at translating please help 