Awesome, thank youOriginally Posted by ADab1za
Awesome, thank you
Yeah I think ufotable reported in their twitter that the first two films eventually reached 100k, I guess by adding the ufotable shop numbers.
There was a quote by Andersen in CCC that I liked. It was about 愛と恋 and included 求める once or twice. Does anyone remember it?
It was a good quote
huh, interesting that the extracted script for CCC has "demon" in english as if that's the. . .時間の概念がほぼ停止した空間。 外界での一秒が何万秒に相当する世界で、 その二人は、今まさに消え去ろうとしていた。
アンデルセン(1): まだ息があるのか。 往生際が悪いなキアラ。 どうせ助からんのだ、さっさと楽になれ。
殺生院キアラ[Demon](2): 言われずともそのつもりですが…… このままでは死んでも死にきれません。 アンデルセン。質問に、答えてください。
アンデルセン(3): あん？ 質問だと？ おまえに分からない 事があるのか？ ムーンセルと繋がった のだ、すべての答えは手の内だろうに。
殺生院キアラ[Demon](1): そうでもありません。 ムーンセルは、人の感情には疎いですから。
殺生院キアラ[Demon](2): あなたは先ほど言いました…… 私は少年少女の恋に破れた、と。 ……私には、それが分からない。
殺生院キアラ[Demon](2): 愛が何であるかは知っています。 でも恋がなんであるか、 知る機会がありませんでした。
殺生院キアラ[Demon](2): 知っているのなら教えてください。 恋とはどんなものなのか。 愛とは、何が違うのかを。
アンデルセン(5): そんなコトも知らないのか。 やばいな、笑い死にしそうだ！
アンデルセン(5): まさか、 この世でもっとも猥らな女が、 この世でもっともだったとは！うぶ初心
殺生院キアラ[Demon](3): アンデルセン。
アンデルセン(1): ……フン。今のは悪かった。 たしかに笑いごとじゃない。 詫びの代金だ、答えてやろう。
アンデルセン(1): 愛は求める心。 そして恋は、夢見る心だ。
殺生院キアラ[Demon](1): ―――夢見る―――心？
アンデルセン(1): 恋は現実の前に折れ、 現実は愛の前に歪み、 愛は、恋の前では無力になる。
アンデルセン(2): それがまっとうな男女の関係だ。 死ぬ間際だが、 それこそ心に刻んで反省しろ。
キアラの口元が皮肉げに歪む。
そんな当たり前のコト――― 自分の人生には現れた事もなかったと、思い返すように。
キアラの崩壊が始まった。
実際には一秒もかからない崩壊。 だが、ここではまだ数分の猶予がある。
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Magi make AI without knowing technology.
Though abandoned, forgotten, and scorned as out-of-date dolls, they continue to carry out their mission, unchanged from the time they were designed.
Machines do not lose their worth when a newer model appears.
Their worth (life) ends when humans can no longer bear that purity.
Sometimes they’re even terminators
Magi make familiars or daemons*, not AI.
*in the Latin sense, not the nasuverse translation kerfuffle sense
shit BL says
Once and always and nevermore.
I'm sure I'm not the first to think it, but I bet the Hassan of Intoxicating Smoke is the one who used Unfeeling Patrolling Spirits. Would seem a good pair to line up, though I'm curious in what way she modified her body in order to use it since Hundred Faces was supposed to be the only Hassan who hadn't altered their own body.
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Upon inheriting it, Reines followed the advice of El-Melloi II and created a familiar out of it, endowing it with an elementary kind of artificial intelligence. It was the best advice for Reines who, rather than having the exceptional Magic Circuits of her predecessor, instead boasted a talent for precise control.
By forcing it to remember Reines’ precise control, the artificial intelligence is able to imitate it perfectly. The newly christened Trimmau being capable of taking so many various forms is primarily a result of this advice she received.The magi deperately attempted to create a homunculus that excelled Justeaze by their own techniques.
The artificial intelligence created to act as the castle's central management - the golem Jubstacheit - was the pinnacle of their craft, and became the father of all homunculi created at Einzbern.
Though abandoned, forgotten, and scorned as out-of-date dolls, they continue to carry out their mission, unchanged from the time they were designed.
Machines do not lose their worth when a newer model appears.
Their worth (life) ends when humans can no longer bear that purity.
It's literally an artificial intelligence, but the process of creating it has nothing to do with an artificial intelligence as created by a programmer. Only BB and her sub-processes are "real" AI in the Nasuverse, afaik, and they've got a healthy dose of Mystery to go with that.
shit BL says
Once and always and nevermore.
Well, yeah, but didn't this discussion start with GlaDos? She's hardly an accurate representation of programming either. She's closer to a memory partition like the skeleton thing from El Melloi II, and that's not even taking the cores into consideration, they're basically living bloatware.
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Isn't this just what magecraft is meant to do?
A Holy Grail doesn't have to be a cup as long it grants wishes.
Though abandoned, forgotten, and scorned as out-of-date dolls, they continue to carry out their mission, unchanged from the time they were designed.
Machines do not lose their worth when a newer model appears.
Their worth (life) ends when humans can no longer bear that purity.
She's an intelligence that's artificial, that's basically the entire definition of the term.
and don't give me 'but that doesn't count by these specific programming terms', since that's because in real life magic doesn't exist
I mean, "non-real life artificial intelligence created by non-real life methods does not behave like real life artifical intelligence" is my whole point. You can't run a Turing Test on Justeaze and there would be no point in trying in any case.
shit BL says
Once and always and nevermore.
artificial check intelligent check
Justeaze isn't an AI, Acht is.
Though abandoned, forgotten, and scorned as out-of-date dolls, they continue to carry out their mission, unchanged from the time they were designed.
Machines do not lose their worth when a newer model appears.
Their worth (life) ends when humans can no longer bear that purity.
yes, that exactly was it, thank (You)
Yeah, but that's because she's literally a soul someone stuffed in a homunculus body or something, not the amalgamation of a million self-refining lines of code.
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My bad, but point still stands.
shit BL says
Once and always and nevermore.
Why does AI NEED to be a neural network utilizing machine learning? You think in the future when everything's cyberpunk-like and highly advanced like the Jetsons and we figure out other ways to make AIs people will go "no that's not true AI you didn't code its neural network yourself"
If we live to see that future, inventing new names to differentiate AIs from memory engrams from whatever other means of manufacturing intelligence there come to be will be the least of our worries. But the sticking point, as far as I'm concerned, is that magi don't actually CREATE their artificial intelligences, they summon them or invoke them or otherwise just make intelligence poof in out of nowhere. Which, while expedient in terms of narrative, means these intelligences aren't actually 'artificial' because there's no artifice involved in creating them. Semantics, yes, but it's an important difference in my humble opinion.
shit BL says
Once and always and nevermore.
Back in my day we didn't have no github. Real men code on parchment and test run on an actual window."It's over, Master."
"Yeah, well done."
Having crushed the last golem, Saber returned. She looked around at the corpses around him and let out a breath, sounding impressed.
"Not bad for a necromancer."
"I've seen my fair share of carnage."
As he spoke, Shishigou tore out a piece of parchment from a piece of a shattered golem. There were commands written all over it.
"This is old... over eight hundred years old."
Time was of exceedingly high value in thaumaturgical applications. A mystery strengthens the longer it has existed. For example, a family's thaumaturgical crest becomes strong by having new accomplishments added to it by every generation to have received it. With eight-hundred-year-old parchment, one may forge a golem that can easily destroy one or two experienced magi.
Interesting, so you say you use C++? Javascript? What sort of deeper mystery and understanding in the Torah have you found with those Kabbalistic methods of reading?
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Though abandoned, forgotten, and scorned as out-of-date dolls, they continue to carry out their mission, unchanged from the time they were designed.
Machines do not lose their worth when a newer model appears.
Their worth (life) ends when humans can no longer bear that purity.
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