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    Close enough if that was the first

    since there is around a 60 year gap,

    so if we work backwards, it would be 1880 or 1870 for the 2nd and then 1810/1790/1795

    Since the third is either during ww2 or a bit before right, so late 1930s

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    1810, (1870s), (1930s), 1994, 2004.

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    CM3 gave 1800s, 1860s, and 1930s. 1810 is the newer date given during the UBW anime, and 1870 can be adjusted from that to have a neat 60-year interval, although that is only an assumption.

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    So the idea that the initial ritual where Justeaze sacrificed herself occured in 1790 has been retconned?
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    It's been moved up a decade.

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    It is the only way the dates could add up. Also, I guess this means Ryuunosuke's ancestors could only have participated in the First War, given that the book he found was from the bakufu era.
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    Really, all 3 of the romances in F/SN are 'for want of a nail' kind of situations.
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    Apocrypha gives the date of the end of the 3rd HGW as literally the night before Hitler invades Poland and WWII starts, in August 1939, but who knows if that's applicable to any other timeline.
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    If it were the date of start it could be applicable, but the date of end certainly isn’t. Didn’t Darnic fail to steal the Grail in the Avenger timelines because the war ended faster than he could?

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    Do Grail Wars typically last longer than a week or 2? How many days did Avenger simulate in FHA?
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    4 but that means Angra died on Day 4, not necessarily that the war as whole only lasted 4 days. He could have been the first blood, for all we know.

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    Oh right, I forgot he died early. Still, I don't think the Third War, for all it's brutality, could have lasted that much longer than the norm so that it would significantly affect the chronology of the wars as a whole.
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    Is it known how Touko's sealing designation was revoked? Also, I would really, really appreciate suggestions for how that might be achieved by a different character, if they received a sealing designation mostly over Clock Tower politics reasons. I'm writing something, but creative problem-solving is something I struggle with.

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    Somehow only the Lady Reines Case Files rerun got my brain to realize Reines would be in her early-30s and Waver in his mid-40s in FGO's proper time

    2004 suddenly feels like ages ago and I don't like it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zork Knight View Post
    Somehow only the Lady Reines Case Files rerun got my brain to realize Reines would be in her early-30s and Waver in his mid-40s in FGO's proper time

    2004 suddenly feels like ages ago and I don't like it
    Man, I turned 6 that year, and I still remember my first few weeks of first grade...

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    I was born in 2004.
    Damn. I feel a bit old.

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    Rin will be 35 in a couple weeks.
    And she'll still be in her prime.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tsugumi View Post
    Is it known how Touko's sealing designation was revoked? Also, I would really, really appreciate suggestions for how that might be achieved by a different character, if they received a sealing designation mostly over Clock Tower politics reasons. I'm writing something, but creative problem-solving is something I struggle with.
    It wasn't just Touko, it was a mass revocation for unknown reasons.

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    In reality, once a sealing designation had been given, it was irrevocable.

    However, a few years ago, a very unusual event took place in the oldest classroom of the Clock Tower, from which the sealing designations came.

    Kalion Observatory, the Secret Judgment Division. At the end of the century, they delivered an incredible shock - even greater than the one caused by my brother, Lord El-Melloi's death - to the entire Clock Tower as multiple sealing designations were revoked.

    The woman in front of me now was one of those revocations.
    So I guess hope your character was Sealing Designated prior to 1999-2001.

    Though the mats also say:
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    From the start, though only for a short time, the reason for the removal of her Sealing Designation was because Millieune Carillon, head of Sealing Designations and the one responsible for removing her Designation, and her were…
    So who knows.

    I think Goredolf mentions being willing to scheme behind the scene to rescue Fujimura if they were ever Sealing Designated.

    Edit: found it
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    Quote Originally Posted by All fictions View Post
    It wasn't just Touko, it was a mass revocation for unknown reasons.

    So I guess hope your character was Sealing Designated prior to 1999-2001.
    Oh wonderful, I was planning on having her receive it either '95 or '96. I guess she can spend the years in between trying and failing to get it revoked via doing "useful tasks" for the Mage's Association. Her partner could conceivably hear about the relationship and proceed to convince/bribe Touko to put in a good word for his gf while she's sleeping with Carillon.

    ...I guess I wouldn't be surprised if that ends up being the canon reason behind the massive revocation: a bunch of desperate relatives pleading with/bribing Touko to get their loved one off the list.

    This is seriously so helpful, thank you so much.

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    Do Grail Wars typically last longer than a week or 2? How many days did Avenger simulate in FHA?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zork Knight View Post
    Somehow only the Lady Reines Case Files rerun got my brain to realize Reines would be in her early-30s and Waver in his mid-40s in FGO's proper time

    2004 suddenly feels like ages ago and I don't like it
    Protagonists in 2022:
    T. Shiki: 25 (40 in the old canon)
    R. Shiki and Mikiya: 43
    The Mahoyo trio: 51 (Aoko doesn’t age past 20)
    Shirou: 35
    Bazett: 41
    Kiritsugu: 57 if living (dead at age 34)
    Waver: 47
    Gray: 33
    Manaka: 45 if living (dead at age 14, though not permanently)
    Proto Ayaka: 39
    Sieg: 18
    Fujimaru: 24+ at least 1 year of time that doesn’t count
    Hakuno: Minus 10
    Deadface: Minus 998
    Erice: 11
    Fake Ayaka: 33
    Σ: 33
    Kanata: 19
    Tsukumo: 94 if living (dead at age 81)
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