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    sessyoin lily is one of the most hideous character designs i've ever seen, even by wada standards
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    Takeuchi sure loves re-using older designs. And it's not limited to Enjou/Shirou or Shiki/Mikiya stuff. The thing is...

    ...Arika Ishizue looks legit like Shizuki Soujuurou after two years of living together with Aoko and Alice lol.
    Dark, empty, evil moon under the hollow sky: the home of this miserable, hateful being. His body has rotten ages ago, his soul has long vanished without a trace. Only deep hatred remains. So far as this hatred burns and curses the soil where he once sided, the humankind will not perish. As time passes, he continues to overlook the humanity from the top of the tainted mountain...

    ...

    ...But his eyes remain fixed on a single thing far away.



    One, that hasn't been tainted by his hatred over the years, remaining pure and immaculate...
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    A small, white flower that blooms on the horizon - Hortensia, that loves him and stays by his side.





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    Quote Originally Posted by JusticeAmongSwords View Post
    Koyama sure loves re-using older designs. And it's not limited to Aoko/Scathach or Kanata/Musashi stuff. The thing is...

    ...Arika Ishizue looks legit like Shizuki Soujuurou after two years of living together with Aoko and Alice lol.
    Still a better waifu-drawer than Takeuchi.

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    Alright, so we all know that TYPE-MOON's "thing", as it is, is to put its own spin on products in whatever facet of the otakusphere is the preferred medium of the current zeitgeist. This is why KnK as web novels, Tsuki stuff and F/sn stuff as visual novels, F/GO as a mobage, and etc. whatever other citable examples come to mind.

    Now, since otaku media is experiencing a veritable golden age of Virtual Youtubers, and T-M dipping their toes into this in the past via Nero's "stream" and as recently as the Fate/EXTRA Record stream having a L2D /EXTRAverse Remake Rin host the event, it wouldn't surprise me if T-M decided to properly enter into VTuber stuff.

    With this in mind, who do you think would be the best pick? BB, due to BB Channel? HibiChika being revived as VTubers? Something inevitably F/GO-related? I doubt they'd use an OC, even if it were to be used to facilitate some kind of experimental on-going narrative, since it'd behoove of T-M to utilize their own brand power and recognizable faces to drum up interest in this new endeavor for the company and franchise, but hey, you never know.
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    BB is the logical choice, but I'd rather HibiChika

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    They (and their VAs) haven't done much as of late, so it'd be a nice reintroduction to Current T-M.
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    The VTuber angle is that they're just otaku streamers pretending to be idols as a joke. In idols it takes an existing culture that is retarded and brings it more down to earth. VTubers are gross, vulgar, and cynical women, but those same qualities make them actually fun and presentable-looks-aside. In more technical terms, the inadequacy of them as idols becomes gap moe.

    Who is an existing TM character who presents themselves as an idol but actually embarasses herself every time she opens her mouth, creating gap moe? That's right, Eli-chan. TM was really in on the whole VTuber thing from the start.

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    I was with you for the first half of that, but if you want a supposedly virginal ideal but actually a hardcore otaku with no filter, Osakabehime fits way to well. Eli tries to fit into that archtype but fails because she dosn't understand it, but NeetHime actually pulls it off until she gets riled up and forgets what she should be doing.

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    I could see them ("them" being Liz, Okki, etc.) show up as maybe guests every so often, since legit VAwork is far more intensive and lucrative, wheras I suggested HibiChika since they haven't done much of anything recently and would possibly have their schedules more open to full-time VTuber work.

    I imagine T-M's forays into VTubing would be fairly different than the usual industry standards, since it already has plenty of brand name and potential characters vs. how it normally is for those VTubers who're basically self-made even while under large companies and are encouraged to stream basically every day out of necessity.
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    TYPE-MOON would probably have a sort of handicap in the field of VTubing, since they'll be using already familiar characters(Like HibiChica, NEro, etc.). I mean, each virtual youtuber making their own unique character is cool and stuff, but having already popular enouth characters do the job is way more assuring. I just hope they won't take it too far and make some cooking show with VTuber Shirou.

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    No, actually. this is exactly what I want.
    Last edited by JusticeAmongSwords; September 2nd, 2020 at 01:07 AM. Reason: No, actually this is exactly what I want.
    Dark, empty, evil moon under the hollow sky: the home of this miserable, hateful being. His body has rotten ages ago, his soul has long vanished without a trace. Only deep hatred remains. So far as this hatred burns and curses the soil where he once sided, the humankind will not perish. As time passes, he continues to overlook the humanity from the top of the tainted mountain...

    ...

    ...But his eyes remain fixed on a single thing far away.



    One, that hasn't been tainted by his hatred over the years, remaining pure and immaculate...
    Spoiler:
    A small, white flower that blooms on the horizon - Hortensia, that loves him and stays by his side.





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    I'm but a beginner in the subject, but the impression I got was that they act their roles or have a convenient media personality

    In comparison to other roles, would it not be similar to FGO radio in terms regularly of broadcasting?
    Though probably with the pressure of acting the roles. I think I heard some comment that vTuber Rin just ended up being Ueda Kana partway, so a subtly different skill set?

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    Testing waters, just give Yu Asakawa a bunch of her characters. She streams right?
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    I'm not versed in VAs on either side of the Pacific but I would be very curious about what a Rider Medusa channel would consist of (and I don't even mean that in a pervy way, necessarily). Or a Sakaki channel... which would probably just be about cute animals, which is kinda most of what I watch on YouTube already.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dullahan View Post
    sessyoin lily is one of the most hideous character designs i've ever seen, even by wada standards
    How does it feel to be so absolutely wrong

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    Seconding Okki as the most likely " T-M vtuber" if such a travesty needs to exist
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    It's like with centaur girls, you're fucking a horse. Sure the human part is the one that moans but your dick is in the horse, no way around it.
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    Who even needs VTubers


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    I wonder how ORT felt when Goetia roasted the planet.

    "I travelled ONE HUNDRED MILLION KILOMETERS to get here, waited SEVEN THOUSAND YEARS, and then they all died while I was taking a nap?!"


    ...I wonder if AAS even woke him up lol.
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    So... this feels completely out of nowhere.

    In the Original Fate/Stay Night Visual Novel, the first route is called the "Fate" route. This confused me a lot when I first heard of this, and I'm certain this confused a lot of other people. You have probably confused the Fate/Stay Night game title with the "Fate" route title at some point.

    I feel like the Fate route should have been renamed to something else. When you got cool sounding names like "Unlimited Blade Works" and "Heaven's Feel" for the other two routes, "Fate" just sounds so damned underwhelming and confused.

    What would you have named the first route, depending on the story it gives? In my opinion, I would have based the name after Avalon or anything Arturian related imo.

    Feel free to give thoughts!
    The Fate Series
    Where the plot is a tangled web of timelines, unexplained concepts, and a lot of franchises tagged "Fate".
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    Quote Originally Posted by TwilightsCall View Post
    ...I wonder if AAS even woke him up lol.
    Honestly, I doubt it? ORT is an alien with legitimate immigration papers and transforms its surroundings to... something that's not Earth. AAS probably didn't target it at all as it's not a part of human history.

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    Wouldn't something Arthurian just spoil Saber's identity?

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    Since the 1d4chan article seemed to have been popular, I'll be adding a bunch of stuff there. Before I do, I should probably check: There is a whole bunch of unstated stuff and conjecture, have I gotten this right?

    == Gaia and her Children==
    The Nasuverse is, if nothing else, very conceptual. An outstanding enough object will shape reality around it with its history and nature. Much like a magic sword, a monster, or a great hero will impress and affect, so too will a house have its own genius loci, a country its national spirit, a god their priesthood, and finally, all that lies on the planet's surface will be shaped by the greatest object of them all.

    Even in our solar system, the planets are not quite what they seem through a telescope. It is not so much that our science lies about Mars, but rather that Mars is its own realm of existence incompatible with human logos. All good and well-behaved celestial bodies are this way, and, as a proof of concept, they have a 'king' who embodies all that the world is. These are called the Ultimate Ones. To honor them, humans who would know of their existence title them 'Type', for example 'Type-Moon' for the Ultimate One of the Moon. Yes, that is where the company name comes from.

    Because, as it turns out, something went wrong on our mother Earth. Perhaps due to its own nature that differed from others, a 'king' could not be born. And not for a lack of trying.


    In the ancient times, deep within the Age of Gods, Gaia tried to birth many children of all sizes and shapes. Today most of them are gone, but some still survive as monsters of the night, fairies, divine beasts of all sort, and also elementals, or even gods. Such beings have an innate link to Gaia, they are made whole, and perfect, fulfilling their duty. But while they are 'perfect' individually, they do not perfectly encompass what exactly Earth is.

    The final experiment was a species that was perfectly imperfect – Humanity. As the ages went by, humanity's link with the earth waned, whether by design or not. All that was on the planet until then was governed by Gaia, the will of the planet, but humanity had its own will: Alaya. As Gaia corrected things that happened on Earth to protect itself and its children, it now had to accommodate for Alaya, which adjusted the world also, protecting humans at the expense of all else. Humans went around the place, and named things, and came up with laws of nature that did not exist before, but Alaya made it so that they did, and Gaia did not mind adjusting. With this power even the gods were made mortal. Humans inevitably saw and interpreted the world through their flawed lens, and they could make those flaws become reality.


    Humans took a long time to grow apart from their mother. They worshiped her children as gods, they were dependent on the rites of Magecraft granted by such beings, and acted as beasts for a decent part. Naturally, the planet loved all of its children – but when Alaya grew too strong, it grew just a little afraid, and began to considered humanity a failure. A failure that was hard to get under control, and so it had asked for help from another – the Moon. The Moon had recently undergone a catastrophe, with something alien landing on it, and destroying most of the king's domain.

    Crimson Moon, the Ultimate One, the representative of Luna, jumped on the offer, and happily started spreading his own children on Gaia. Earth's hope was that the two bodies could be united, and made more whole, producing an unifying Type, but the Moon's nature was too harsh and abusive. The children of Crimson Moon, the True Ancestors, fed on humans, gorged on their blood, and soon began to go mad from bloodlust, as if humanity's profane blood tainted their fair forms. Though they would be done away with, much like Crimson Moon himself, some of those humans touched by that divinity would go on to become Dead Apostles, better known as vampires. As Magi would later find, any other attempt to become immortal, through methods such as body-hopping or alchemy, tends to end in a human becoming a Dead Apostle of some sort, because mortality is essential to human struggle.


    Two milenia ago, the Human Order began to overtake the planet's influence for good. This is the end of the Age of Gods. By the time of King Arthur, its last vestiges were fading, and Gaia's older children have withdrawn from sight. Human reason unraveled too much of the mystery, and as they made those beings weaker with reason, in turn, their own Magecraft granted by those same beings grew weak. Before then, the history of humanity was a struggle against outside forces, and the struggle of simply keeping civilization together. Since then, humanity is struggling against itself. While technology is the way of the future, the magic, so to speak, is being lost. Magecraft practiced in the modern age, in turn, is the art of returning to the past, and using at least a little bit of that power.

    From there, depending on humanity's various actions, there are two options:

    A) Humanity embraces modernism, resulting in a strong Human Order. History will be able to manifest through such methods as servant summoning, but that same power becomes a danger to itself, and the world. This route leads to the Fate-side of the world.

    B) Humanity holds itself back, or loses a few fights, resulting in a healthier, but much more dangerous world, where Dead Apostles birthed by the True Ancestors still walk, and threaten to overtake the world. This is colloquially known as the Tsuki-side of the setting.

    Whichever the case, most of this stuff is not common knowledge. But unlike the various kinds of Masquerade in the World of Darkness, it should now be obvious that magi cannot allow the knowledge of magic to spread out, because it would ironically stop it from working. With the advent of the internet, many fear that this outcome is inevitable.

    The supernatural underworld is simply known as the 'Moonlit World'. Its main players are the Mage Association, split into three branches, and the Church, which instead seeks to eliminate Magecraft and the supernatural completely, going as far as they are allowed to get away with. Despite their natural enmity, the two have to constantly cooperate to deal with dangerous rogues.
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    Moonlit World is just old BL stuff rather than anything in Fate/Tsuki. 魔術世界 is the actual term.

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