Mahou Tsukai no Yoru free range discussion thread, spoil as thou wilt

[deadfish]

Actually looking at this again. It looks like Touko's eye is a Whisper type.

....Or actually maybe it is Snare.



Okay, anyway looking around on 2ch past threads.
Fifth and First supposed to be conflicting would mean that the thing about Aoko being concerned about Stantia, the First Wraithin MBAA should be interpreted as her being concerned about the First's Wraith showing up. Which makes Stanrobe Calhin related to the First Magic?

[madarra]

so, the first magic created ghost?


anyway, his existence is still fading right?

Roa took a while to fade away when stabbed by Shiki because of the history behind him, i guess descovering the first placed a lot of history behind his existence

[Cruor]

so, the first magic created ghost?


anyway, his existence is still fading right?

Roa took a while to fade away when stabbed by Shiki because of the history behind him, i guess descovering the first placed a lot of history behind his existence

Nah, the current belief is that Stanrobe might actually be the user of the First Magic. Hence either the First Wraith or the Wraith of the First.

Also, inc Aoko vs Stanrobe as final boss in next MB.

[food]

The original user of the First died/killed/gone, "someone close to the First user" is thought to be kicking still.

Stan is thought to be the "someone close".

[deadfish]

Did Grandpa Aozaki actually touch the Root? Touko made it sound he actually did not. So is he just a coward who fell back and pick up something thing along the way to make a Magic?

If he's still alive and talking, alive as in "alive" (he's just a mass of talking Od now; first time Od is actually used in a game), he hasn't gone to the Root.
You touch the Root, you get absorbed and you are never heard from again.

[food]

Alright, I am here, unarmed.

Hit me with the spoilers.

EDIT:

Alright, so I have not been lied to. Good to know.

KnK be legit still. Nasu did not eat his own words, good on him.

[Mcjon01]

If he's still alive and talking, alive as in "alive" (he's just a mass of talking Od now; first time Od is actually used in a game), he hasn't gone to the Root.
You touch the Root, you get absorbed and you are never heard from again.

You mean, like, the first time Od actually does something, or the first time it's mentioned? Because I definitely remember it popping up in FSN and Unlimited Codes, solely because it's always translated as "odo" which sticks out to me.

[deadfish]

Oh. Well the first time it's mentioned for sure as actually doing something.

[food]

Well, usually Od is just fuel to be burned.

Now we know it can make Force Ghosts.

[Hermitfold]

Hey, a quick question. Who is May Liddell Archelot? Saw her pic at the wiki, and got curious.

[deadfish]

Alice's childhood friend and rival. If part 2 ever comes out, she'll try to kill everybody. She also beats Beowulf sometime in part 2 or part 3 or something.
The extra story in Mahoyo happens after that where everything's cool and she's been reduced to the idiot girl whom Alice trolls.

Speaking of which, she's the one who gave names to each of Alice's familiars. They were unnamed before.

[I3uster]

So, how does Touko fight? What does she utilize?

Just her mystic eyes, weird puppets and rune magic? No conventional magecraft?

[food]

Low-tier Mystic Eyes amplified to absurd levels.

Perpetual motion machine puppets.

And Original Runes.

Also Crests from Crest farm.

[I3uster]

Oh right, the crests.

...how did those work again? She uses them up like Rin does for her contract thing, right?

[TypeWannabe]

*uses original runes*

*Lancer gets cremated*

*uses original runes*

*Lancer gets Fragerached*

*uses original runes*

*Lancer gets killed by Shadow*

*uses original runes*

*Touko gets blasted to hell by Aoko's destructive power*

This is why you don't put your faith in the Irish.

[deadfish]

Alice fight
Writes over (and hides) 300,000 runes (representing the sun; also these are "shape memory" runes which aren't in any form until contact with magic energy, which would be how she hid them) all over the place in a park in one day before the actual fight so that the area would count as being in "daylight", so when Alice tries to invoke Deedle Deedle which calls the night, it breaks.
Oh, and these are unpatented runes too.
Mystic Eye to immobilize Alice, followed up by some kind of wind blade rune to do slicing and dicing.
But then Touko gets trolled (in the literal sense also).


Lesse.
We see her using Sowelu (fire), Eihwaz (which has some kind of invisibility dispel effect but it doesn't seem to do anything against some tricks) . Most of these runes seem to be single action types of executions.
And what else...Aoko was using a four bar long charge up to toast Touko and apparently, the narration at the time was saying that Touko can't pick up magic of 2 bars or higher in length, so she couldn't defend against it (but that was before the big Crest farm reveal).

After that, everything Touko was doing in that scene in the translation forum.

And there's something else I missed, but I'll just do the lazy thing and leave it to Mcjon.

[Ruca_Milda]

She also beats Beowulf sometime in part 2 or part 3 or something.

Is Beowulf Mahoyo's "hey guys this character is so so awesome, now let's see him get curbstomped by every character in the VN"?

[food]

Well, he was So Jewel Roll's foil.

The whole deal is to build up this uber-tier creature, and have So Jewel Roll tear him down in three seconds.

It's the Nine Bullet Revolver of Mahoyo.

[deadfish]

Yep, he's Mahoyo's Arc.

[food]

Let arai show you the Dartz Call.