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    Quote Originally Posted by Rafflesiac View Post
    Julian used space warp magic to take Medea from Illya and crush it to pieces.

    He can presumably do the same to Kuro or Ko-Gil.
    I think he was referring to the post above that

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mcjon01 View Post
    Well then why didn't he do it to Gil?
    Was actually the first thought i had
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMegas View Post
    I think he was referring to the post above that
    Nope.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mcjon01 View Post
    Nope.
    Ok.

    Still, did we ever find out where shirou from Prismaverse comes from either?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mcjon01 View Post
    Well then why didn't he do it to Gil?
    Now that I think about it, maybe he needs to touch the actual card.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMegas View Post
    Ok.

    Still, did we ever find out where shirou from Prismaverse comes from either?
    You don't mean Miyuverse Shirou, right? Because nope, we still just have the word that he was an orphan and that's that.

    Until 4ier! is confirmed to be a thing, I think many of the minor questions of Prisma are going to go unanswered.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ItsaRandomUsername View Post
    You don't mean Miyuverse Shirou, right? Because nope, we still just have the word that he was an orphan and that's that.

    Until 4ier! is confirmed to be a thing, I think many of the minor questions of Prisma are going to go unanswered.
    ....I just wonder if Miyu died in every other timeline
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    It seems to me Beatrice was talking about both Shirou and Kuro. Since they're both the ones that beat "Gilgamesh", it was Shirou and his shitty card (Kuro). I mean, it's not like it's a hard conclusion, when his natural powers are the same as a card, that he's a dude who would become a Heroic Spirit. Installing the Archer card is probably how he got all that skill and those NPs in the first place. Hence it would also be 'his' card because he's the guy who used it against them before.
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    Until it's explicitly stated, I'm not making assumptions that Shirou's powers would come from the cards. It's a neat thesis, but like, there's no evidence either way yet. Theoretically it could be plenty of things, i kinda liked the 'they're a boon from the world' idea personally.

    It is kinda funny that he would have so may swords tho, the cards are a definite possibility
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    Quote Originally Posted by meevanhelot View Post
    It seems to me Beatrice was talking about both Shirou and Kuro. Since they're both the ones that beat "Gilgamesh", it was Shirou and his shitty card (Kuro). I mean, it's not like it's a hard conclusion, when his natural powers are the same as a card, that he's a dude who would become a Heroic Spirit. Installing the Archer card is probably how he got all that skill and those NPs in the first place. Hence it would also be 'his' card because he's the guy who used it against them before.
    He saw many of the NPs he used fighting Julian's Heroic Spirits, apparently.
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    Occam's razor says it's more likely he got his skill from resonance with the card that is also him and both he and Angilica have prior experience with, than the world suddenly downloading a bunch of NPs and how to use them into his skull. I mean, he even has Eye of the Mind and told Kuro how to use it.

    ^He saw Kanshou and Bakuya fighting Julian's Heroic Spirits and knew both Crane Wing and Overedge from it?
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    The reason I thought it might be a boon is because i don't know how else shirou would still have the projection talent..... unless he has avalon in this timeline too

    Or maybe the resonance effect can even change elements and origins
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    His name is Emiya Shirou and this is the Sixth Holy Grail War.

    Also it's Prisma Illya.

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    Re-read chapter, Bea definitely seems to be referring to Shirou and Kuro in the same sentence together, but individually. He's definitely not the card she referred to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by meevanhelot View Post
    His name is Emiya Shirou and this is the Sixth Holy Grail War.

    Also it's Prisma Illya.
    Does this mean Miyuverse!Kerry adopted Miyu at one point too? Or did he bang Miyu's mom......

    What if Miyu's mom is alive?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ItsaRandomUsername View Post
    Re-read chapter, Bea definitely seems to be referring to Shirou and Kuro in the same sentence together, but individually. He's definitely not the card she referred to.
    Pai is probably laughing right now since the original JP is probably super clear about this
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    Maybe she's his actual sister. How did he manage to keep her alive in the fire? Lol who cares Prisma Illya.

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    Quote Originally Posted by meevanhelot View Post
    Maybe she's his actual sister. How did he manage to keep her alive in the fire? Lol who cares Prisma Illya.
    Like half the fun is this crazy theorizing though.

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    Fine. Natural Grail on the level of Illya so she survived fine because super circuits like Ciel, but Shirou needed Avalon.

    Also he like, guarded her with his body and she was his singular focus and that's why he's powered by imouto love rather than ideals.
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    Quote Originally Posted by meevanhelot View Post
    Fine. Natural Grail on the level of Illya so she survived fine because super circuits like Ciel, but Shirou needed Avalon.
    ......that works.
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    Since it's the sixth war and all i can imagine something happening in the previous wars that led to shirou getting avalon and his sword abilities.

    I like the theory that it's because of the cards better though. Shirou using the archer card but because of how high his affinity with the card is some of it's power actually stayed with him.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Mcjon01 View Post
    Prisma Illya is serious business, okay? Even I wouldn't derail it.

    So is Miyu's Shirou using a card or what? I thought that was his power, but that part wasn't clear. We're they talking about him? Miyu? Both? Answer it Paitouch.
    I mean, he says like "this heroic spirit's..." blah blah on one page, so I took that to mean it's not his own power. And I worded the piece of shit card line so that it could be taken in different ways, so that when the truth is revealed, I can say, "uh huh, see, that's what I meant by that. I'm fucking psychic or something."

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