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    Quote Originally Posted by Herod View Post
    Yeah, this. If (IF) you really need to put a sex in your story to make it work (and I strongly doubt this is true for Tsukihime), sex is not pornography (VERY BAD pornography, to boot).
    Yes I think we got that you don't want fornication in your high brow east asian picture book.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TomPen94 View Post
    That will depend on how they actually think about it and if they agree with you. It might actually genuinely suck. At least by then you will have concrete reasons to like/dislike it.

    As for me I'm on Cloud 9 this is probably the happiest I've been for TM stuff. If it sucks I'll be disappointed, but for these months nothing can take this away from me.
    I am just not capable of mustering an ounce of hype for it. I can only hope it's actually good in a way I can appreciate.
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    I kind of understand where Nihilm is coming from at least. FGO, specially from the SE.RA.PH. event, was the starting point that made me realize that "Nasu is probably doing something he shouldn't". Then I started reading lots of interviews, reading FGO plot, going through the references and then I finally got what was happening.

    Things are not like they were before and much is because of something that Nasu chose to himself, I suspect because of a different philosophy Nasu has adopted since then. And that is obviously affecting the main Nasu themes and etc.

    I don't know if it will be good or bad quality, but I understand people who are uncomfortable, I was too before "adapting" to it. Nowadays I am kind just 'enjoying everything as it is' but I can't just demand the same capacity from everyone. I can just hope it is not as bad as people make it to be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Herod View Post
    Yeah, this. If (IF) you really need to put a sex in your story to make it work (and I strongly doubt this is true for Tsukihime), sex is not pornography (VERY BAD pornography, to boot).
    Also agree with this. Look at the Heaven's Feel movie, the sex scene with Sakura was important enough that they chose to include it over the garbage replacement in Realta Nua, but they didn't have to be pornographic about it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aldeayeah View Post
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    Inventive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nihilm View Post
    Yes I think we got that you don't want fornication in your high brow east asian picture book.
    That's not my point. I read a ton of erotic stuff, both now and in the past. I find Nasu porn boring and bland at best and painfully subpar at worst.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Erlkonig View Post
    Also agree with this. Look at the Heaven's Feel movie, the sex scene with Sakura was important enough that they chose to include it over the garbage replacement in Realta Nua, but they didn't have to be pornographic about it.
    Funnly enough, the last Sakura sex scene is in Realta Nua too (as a fade to black).
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    Quote Originally Posted by weeblord View Post
    (...) but theres really no reason that sexual act needs to be explicit pornography.
    There's actually a reason for it to be, or in my particular case, 2.
    1 - It makes it a controversial work that makes the normie side of the population to reject it (basically elitism).
    2 - (my case) It gives more freedom to the artist to talk about anything he wants, 'cause if there's porn in your work, you're already on the worst denominator for society, so you litterary can go nuts on everything else.

    For the first one, assuming you care about newcomers doing their "fresh meat" thing, it is a reading heavy work, they probably will give up on the first 15m and brag that they read the VN. Just ignore.
    For the second, it is a matter of course that good writers don't need any "immorality steroid" to write about deep things, they just need to stay strong on their ideals, their objectives and don't think too much about what people will think about it... which is something Nasu indeed have a problem dealing with, imo, so yeah, there's that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Herod View Post


    Funnly enough, the last Sakura sex scene is in Realta Nua too (as a fade to black).
    I thought she just sucked his blood instead of receiving semen. Actually I'm probably getting two different scenes mixed up, my bad.
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    I'll miss the Kohaku route eroscene, and no other one.

    man what an absolute jerk Shiki was in the sack throughout the game

    thank god Nasu was delicate enough to make him at least go easy on the rape victim.
    don't quote me on this

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    Quote Originally Posted by aldeayeah View Post
    I'll miss the Kohaku route eroscene, and no other one.

    man what an absolute jerk Shiki was in the sack throughout the game; at least Nasu was delicate enough to make him go easy on the rape victim.

    I'll miss possessed Shiki maping the raids, the Suppression of Roa, chokesturbation, and the mollusks. Unfortunately, we also might not get to pick whether or not Senpai is still Senpai without her glasses.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Erlkonig View Post
    we also might not get to pick whether or not Senpai is still Senpai without her glasses
    trick question; neither version is Senpai, since she's grossly out of character during that whole sequence of events
    don't quote me on this

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    Quote Originally Posted by JZangetsu View Post
    Seems like people wants this perfect future where Type Moon is only for dedicated fans from 12 years ago or some shit like that.
    That is exactly what Nasu said when he made the first FGO interview, that is, even if FGO failed, he would keep doing it to have fun with his group of nerds who like it, although it was concerning FGO story only. But even then, Nasu has repeatedly shown being concerned about people calling FGO too shallow on interviews and that he wanted to change things and asking people to give a chance.
    I dare to say that 2019 and 2020 being the best improvements for 12 year old fans and actually being the dead years for the waifumasters, even recognized by Nasu in someway, is a pretty good demonstration that there is a big relevancy on things being niche.
    Therefore, the idea of Type Moon being only dedicated to fans from 12 years ago is only blocked for how FGO gives them $$$, which have been slowing down recently.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Strange_One View Post
    Apparently Famitsu over a year ago
    It Nasu tho, so that counts for..
    Yeah, and then he not only asks ACPI to make Melty Blood Nightmare manga where litterally you have Olga meeting Arcueid on the street and a clear foreshadowing that shit that happens in FGO is somewhat linked to whatever Atlas was doing, but he also puts ACPI on the guest writers list on the FGO site. Go look it up.

    To me that part of the interview is just him trying to not spoil what will happen on LB7.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Strange_One View Post
    Apparently Famitsu over a year ago
    It Nasu tho, so that counts for..
    This is saying "Sion's in FGO, but that doesn't mean that the rest of the cast exists in the world (and humanity's dead, anyhow)". Crossover events so far have literally brought the characters in from their own timeline, sometimes more seriously than other times (e.g. Fate/Accel Zero Order is a fairly serious if simplistic F/Z redo, while Prisma Codes is "what if everyone got stuck in the magical girl dimension").

    Arcuied would probably be the same in FGO's world if she existed, for obvious reasons, but since it's not Tsukihime you wouldn't get the whole Tohno family drama going on in that world.

    All the quote is saying is "no, despite Sion being a major character in FGO this doesn't mean Tsukihime is canon to it". Which, you know. Is obvious. It might need to be outright stated in Famitsu's case, though.

    I guess that does imply that the gacha Servants in the event would probably be Arc and Ciel, though, which makes sense. I kind of still want to see Shiki for the inevitable Shiki vs. Shiki interactions, but given their similarity (and Nasu's previous "paradox" comments) I don't think that's likely.

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    While y'all thirsty Oedipuses are clamoring for badly-written porn, I just want to know if Shiki's one true love will still be in the novel.

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    As someone not too familiar with the original VN work, I can't comment much about it. My first entry to it was the anime(what anime?) long ago, and after a long time I went back and read the translation of the VN some more to understand its context. I'm intrigued with its supernatural aspects, particularly its take regarding vampires, though I'm admittedly uncomfortable with the H-scenes. This remake will release with TM more well-known for its Fate franchise thanks to FGO, so people's opinion will understandably be mixed. Nasu might take it into account, so it's up to him how he will go about the remake.

    But I'm ultimately down with more vampire hunting goodness along with lores of DAs and such, though. And hopefully expansion of the obscure sides introduced in Prelude and Talk.



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    Quote Originally Posted by SirGauoftheSquareTable View Post
    Agreed. Things have changed, and we should roll with that and find what we like in the new. Be thankful Tsuki is getting this second life.


    Those opinions are absolutely clouded by nostalgia, and Tsukihime was a product of it's time and place. Nasu has changed since then, and Tsuki RE is being produced in a different time and place. With that in mind, change us inevitable and acceptable, either for newer fans or for Nasu himself.
    .

    Its no longer 2000. If you've been holding onto this franchise reboot as a way to reignite the feelings you had in your younger days id advise giving up.

    From many years ago we knew two things for certain: nasu would never right an ero scene again and the remake from very early on was not intended as a "the same story with updated production values" but a full on rewrite.

    If not for that its almost 100% certainty that the franchise would never be touched again.



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    Tbh, I was kind of hoping the remake would be an updated rerelease just so I wouldn't have to deal with the original's kinda crappy interface if I wanted to play it. In any case, I guess this means I'll have to download the original and play it anyway, if the remake is going to be a radical departure.
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    Don't forget to read the manga <3

    Personally its far better in execution of itself than the og novel. Far more focused and less messy.

    The only thing you don't get of relevance is the hisui route. Not even for hisui herself but almost everything else story wise is backloaded into that one route.



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    Thanks for the heads-up. Have some decisions to make.
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    Really, all 3 of the romances in F/SN are 'for want of a nail' kind of situations.
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