Bloodless Sins

[Hymn of Ragnarok]

I'm extremely certain that A+ Rank riding data details that "members of the Dragon Kind" can't be ridden.

That does not mean riding a dragon is impossible. Just that A+ isn't sufficient. Reading between the lines, it is important.

A few random notes:

A)its not actually for sure archer didn't go all out against Heracles, and the only reason he didn't UBW was because it was not tactically expedient to do so,

and second, specific Word of God says riding will never allow riding of dragons, a completely separate skill is nessasary. Right now I think the only person we know with a reasonable chance of having that skill is the shirou from the fate route.

Okay then. I'm satisfied.

[Arch-Magos Winter]

A few random notes:

A)its not actually for sure archer didn't go all out against Heracles, and the only reason he didn't UBW was because it was not tactically expedient to do so,

and second, specific Word of God says riding will never allow riding of dragons, a completely separate skill is nessasary. Right now I think the only person we know with a reasonable chance of having that skill is the shirou from the fate route.

I see what you did there.

[SVNB Backup]

DUR HUR.

But seriously, are there any heroes known for dragon-riding? Saint George? Siegfried?

I know both of them are famous for killing dragons, not riding them, but then again King Arthur's a teenage girl, Medea could fire space lasers, and Gilgamesh had blond hair in the Nasuverse.

[Arch-Magos Winter]

DUR HUR.

But seriously, are there any heroes known for dragon-riding? Saint George? Siegfried?

Saint George for dragon killing. Same with Siegfried. And Beowulf. And Lancelot. And...

You'd think that riding a dragon would be a feat worth writing down you know?

[SVNB Backup]

Indeed it would.

So is this where a fictional character comes in, a la Sasaki Kojiro? The Vikings of Berk? Erag *shot*

[Kratosirving]

Hey, the loli is important to Archer. Plus it's NAKED loli! Honestly, this will be a story where Ilya is NOT DEAD. She'll have a major part, plus Kevin Sorbo Hercules again.

Because I can.



For a serious response though, nice first chapter Elf and I understand wanting to start on this after hitting a rut with Saber. Just try not to let Utopia fade like Sakura's version did.

[Tobias]

seems legit

[RadiantBeam]

Krato, you magnificent bastard.

[Elf]

And then everyone was happy.

And Rin got laid.

[Mike1984]

Cite your source please, because this is a world where badass people can hop dimensions, drop the moon on people, and destroy planets if they really want to. And it positively thrives on people breaking established rules.

So unless it's explicitly said dragons can't be ridden, I'm not buying it. And even then I'd be skeptical.

Rider's Rank A riding skill specifically says "cannot ride dragons". Further, Jason has no history of riding one in mythology.

[Lycodrake]

Further, Jason has no history of riding one in mythology.

Especially this. Obviously "lolNasu" could come into play, but...yeah.

[Hymn of Ragnarok]

Rider's Rank A riding skill specifically says "cannot ride dragons". Further, Jason has no history of riding one in mythology.

I know that. I was referring to Lyco's claims that it's impossible to ride dragons altogether.

[LunarLegend]

>come to a thread to read delicious Elf lemon
>thread turns to powerlevel fight over dragon riding and LOLNASU

Oh, Beast's Lair. You so crazy. Also, re the mythology of Jason: READ THIS, BITCHES!


I was confused at first, Elf, but rereading the opening, things seem much more coherent.

I'm particularly interested in seeing what you do with illya. The whole "little sister to Shirou and Archer" angle needs to be looked into more. Plus, I want to see how the adult woman and spoilt child thing get developed as we go deeper.

[Moczo]

Oooooooooooh, interesting! It has all the usual Elfness... horrible maiming, Archer making out with Rin, Archer making eyes at Rin, Archer being lustful of Rin...

Okay, I'll stop. XD

But more seriously, adding Archer back into the Fate Route after he's already died is an odd idea. Seems like it would take some of the drama out of the ending, but... maybe it would also just make Gil and Kirei fight a bit more seriously to pick up the slack (Especially Kirei. Because come on, his Fate incarnation basically just folded up and died at the end there. Where was your magic kung-fu in Fate, Kirei?! Where was it?!). Whatever happens, I'm sure it will happen with typical Elfish wisdom.

Write on!

[RadiantBeam]

Especially Kirei. Because come on, his Fate incarnation basically just folded up and died at the end there. Where was your magic kung-fu in Fate, Kirei?! Where was it?!

Kirei only has his magic kung-fu in Heaven's Feel.

[Moczo]

Kirei only has his magic kung-fu in Heaven's Feel.

But whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy?!

[RadiantBeam]

But whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy?!

Because when you really think about it, Heaven's Feel makes no sense.

[Moczo]

Because when you really think about it, Heaven's Feel makes no sense.

... ... ... Dammit, I wish I could argue with that.

[Elf]

Kirei only has his magic kung-fu in Heaven's Feel.

He has it in Fate/Unlimited Codes too . . .

But no, I always got the impression that he, you know, punched through Rin. And I can see it, Rin's unguarded and he just fucking BLINDSIDES her and BOOM blood on the wall. She crumples, then Kirei calmly shakes the blood off his hand and goes to grab Ilya.

[Hymn of Ragnarok]

He has it in Fate/Unlimited Codes too . . .

But no, I always got the impression that he, you know, punched through Rin. And I can see it, Rin's unguarded and he just fucking BLINDSIDES her and BOOM blood on the wall. She crumples, then Kirei calmly shakes the blood off his hand and goes to grab Ilya.

This is what happens when people fight without the posturing and speeches. And I wish it happened more often.

*glares at Archer*

For someone who takes no pride in himself, he's remarkably straightforward and honest. If he lied his ass off and ran a campaign of deliberate misinformation he could fuck over so many people at just the right time.