Random Thoughts Thread

[just Beamu]

I, for one, shall fetch Beast Lair homosexuality expert bassg for his input

never

[2Bad]

reminder that no less an individual that Robespierre was originally quoted as saying, when prompted by.... Danton I think? to push for a republic, "What is a republic?" there was very little political will to dispose of the king initially, and even when it WAS brought to the table it was only after political provocation from the king himself and significant string pulling

[Sesto]

What I meant was that different sources say different things, there is as far as I know no real super hard evidence on the matter of "was lustful" or not.

uh yes there is many evidences

french evolutionist propaganda is not evidence

[Seika]

Good, good.

I want to have an orgy. Just one time. ;_;

[Sesto]

not actually a tradition, that

for the french at least yes

do you want me to bring out a source and spend an hour trying to find it. because i'm not going to find it because it's a very large book. but you don't have any source at all

[Snow]

The birth of a nation.

[Sesto]

uh yes there is many evidences

french evolutionist propaganda is not evidence

revolutionist not evolutionist

[2Bad]

do you want me to bring out a source

yes

[Zurvan]

Is this source that biased toward marie source, because yeah....

[Sesto]

yes

i know this sounds like an excuse but i just realized i don't have the book on me so sorry

i will post it later when i return to my dorm. but please feel free to post your sources too

[2Bad]

actually as I'm not attacking traditional historical canon the burden of proof does not lie on me friend sesto

[Sesto]

Is this source that biased toward marie source, because yeah....

there is little "bias" towards marie in modern sources

most historians agree that marie was demonized during her time. in fact, it's pretty much a universal fact that the revolutionists made marie out to be a a scapegoat. any modern historian would admit marie was far from some austrian demon who ruined france.

if you hate marie you are just a meme or bullying me. it's a fact, many historians would agree

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actually as I'm not attacking traditional historical canon the burden of proof does not lie on me friend sesto

the burden of proof relies on you because i have a source and you don't, my friend rodyle

[2Bad]

you have a book, not a source

go primary or go home

[Gl❀w]

why does it always come back to this

[SeiKeo]

the burden of proof relies on you because i have a source and you don't, my friend rodyle

you have a source, somewhere else

[Sesto]

you have a book, not a source

go primary or go home

just what exact primary source do you want me to give you

her letters? because those are referenced in the book. and quite surprisingly, her letters don't talk of her demonic plans to destroy france and have as many orgies with as many people as possible. they talk of her mother and older brother being disappointed she can't manipulate the king like she was supposed to

[SeiKeo]

just what exact primary source do you want me to give you

her letters? because those are referenced in the book. and quite surprisingly, her letters don't talk of her demonic plans to destroy france and have as many orgies with as many people as possible. they talk of her mother and older brother being disappointed she can't manipulate the king like she was supposed to

incest and trying to manipulate her husband, you say

[just Beamu]

why does it always come back to this

Unhealthy obssessions

[Zurvan]

there is little "bias" towards marie in modern sources

most historians agree that marie was demonized during her time. in fact, it's pretty much a universal fact that the revolutionists made marie out to be a a scapegoat. any modern historian would admit marie was far from some austrian demon who ruined france.

if you hate marie you are just a meme or bullying me. it's a fact, many historians would agree

I'm not hating or anything, at least I don't mean to.
I'm not well versed on the subject and I wouldn't mind learning a bit about it.
Thing is that some sources think she was horrible, while others say she wasn't. I'm not sure whether or not you can disregard everything written about her in her time because lol propaganda. Where does the propaganda begin, and the truth end?

[Sesto]

why does it always come back to this

because people always want to bully marie

i know it's because people want to bully me, but i won't stand by as people bully marie. she was a good person.

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I'm not hating or anything, at least I don't mean to.
I'm not well versed on the subject and I wouldn't mind learning a bit about it.
Thing is that some sources think she was horrible, while others say she wasn't. I'm not sure whether or not you can disregard everything written about her in her time because lol propaganda. Where does the propaganda begin, and the truth end?

well, around after the french revolution and napoleon ended