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    dammit, I forgot SEX IS INTEGRAL TO THE PLOT AND SAKURA'S CHARACTER ARC

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snow View Post
    hot controversial opinion: the porn thing doesn't necessarily have to have anything to do with quality of work, and is not a good argument against the quality of something IMO
    Eh, sorry but I have to disagree.

    It's part of something therefore it affects the quality and enjoyment of a work.

    Just because I can skip sex-scenes doesn't magically not make them a part of the work/story.

    It's like saying that the gameshow episode doesn't affect the rest of Ergo Proxy.
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    A Small Warmth - a post UBW-Good oneshot, Saber/Rin
    Devil's Thrill - Narbareck hunts down a DAA Blackmore ( 10/10 chapters, finished )
    Boundary of Loneliness - Ryougi Shiki/Alphard Al-Shua oneshot. Lemon-flavoured

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    and >tfw you betray your ideals to get some

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    I don't think having porn in the film would affect its general quality, really; I'm sure it'll be interesting either way, but we'll have to see how well it does to capture the good parts of HF rather than being kind of a shallow adaptation overall.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leftovers View Post
    and >tfw you betray your ideals to get some
    Best part of HF imo.
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    Eclipse - a Saber Alter oneshot
    Requiem for a Race - Altrouge and Ortenrosse hunt the TAs ( 1/3 chapters, discontinued )
    Memories of a King - a 'Saber Origins' story ( 8/? chapters, discontiuned )
    A Small Warmth - a post UBW-Good oneshot, Saber/Rin
    Devil's Thrill - Narbareck hunts down a DAA Blackmore ( 10/10 chapters, finished )
    Boundary of Loneliness - Ryougi Shiki/Alphard Al-Shua oneshot. Lemon-flavoured

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leftovers View Post
    dammit, I forgot SEX IS INTEGRAL TO THE PLOT AND SAKURA'S CHARACTER ARC
    also people spamming 100000 gifs of the same clips a million times
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    Quote Originally Posted by Laserman View Post
    I was surprised to see that for the first time today after people repeadliy kept saying , "He never wanted to make a H-Game, he just wanted to sell his story better.", in that one thread.
    ———Does your speed increase when it's an H-scene?
    Nasu No, I slow down when it's an H-scene. If it's just a normal H-scene I can finish it pretty quickly, but if I'm writing scripts with a heavy emphasis on its plot, I can't create a discontinuity in the story even if it's an H-scene, and it's very hard to balance parts that's related to the story. After writing something, I'd take a look and say "this is totally wrong" and re-write it. The H-scene needs to be erotic, yet still preserving Shiki's characteristics, it was very difficult. In the end I spent the most time on the H-scenes. Comparatively, you could say the non-H sections are easy, since I just need to write out the story.
    lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Snow View Post
    hot controversial opinion: the porn thing doesn't necessarily have to have anything to do with quality of work, and is not a good argument against the quality of something IMO
    Not necessarily but it can easily work in conjunction with myriad OTHER flaws and magnify them

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    Quote Originally Posted by Polly View Post
    Eh, sorry but I have to disagree.

    It's part of something therefore it affects the quality and enjoyment of a work.

    Just because I can skip sex-scenes doesn't magically not make them a part of the work/story.

    It's like saying that the gameshow episode doesn't affect the rest of Ergo Proxy.
    Quality of sex scenes in this particular work are another story altogether.

    Just saying that I accept the theoretical existence of a universe in which the porn (ug, erotic material) actually contributes to a story, or at least doesn't take away from it.

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    Ok here's the hottest take though: is it consensual between Sakura and Shirou if a large part of sakura's desire is zouken induced?
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    That time they checked out that hot guy they were just admiring his watch, yeah?


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    Quote Originally Posted by mAc Chaos View Post
    also people spamming 100000 gifs of the same clips a million times
    It was all the way back in Fall 2011 but I still remember the deluge of Lancelot v. Gilgamesh gifs when F/Z first started airing.
    The Manhattan Project: Is it a sin to kill for your country? In an age of nationalism, where do you draw the line between right and wrong? In the 1960s, eight people seek peace amidst war and tragedy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leftovers View Post
    and >tfw you betray your ideals to get some
    lel I'm so sigging this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Snow View Post
    Just saying that I accept the theoretical existence of a universe in which the porn (ug, erotic material) actually contributes to a story, or at least doesn't take away from it.
    Sure, that's all fine and I agree.

    But you can't just say 'porn scenes can be cut out of the body of work and then the mutilated body can ( and should?) be judged independently'.
    My attempts at being a (fanfic) writer:

    Eclipse - a Saber Alter oneshot
    Requiem for a Race - Altrouge and Ortenrosse hunt the TAs ( 1/3 chapters, discontinued )
    Memories of a King - a 'Saber Origins' story ( 8/? chapters, discontiuned )
    A Small Warmth - a post UBW-Good oneshot, Saber/Rin
    Devil's Thrill - Narbareck hunts down a DAA Blackmore ( 10/10 chapters, finished )
    Boundary of Loneliness - Ryougi Shiki/Alphard Al-Shua oneshot. Lemon-flavoured

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    Quote Originally Posted by Polly View Post
    Sure, that's all fine and I agree.

    But you can't just say 'porn scenes can be cut out of the body of work and then the mutilated body can ( and should?) be judged independently'.
    I didn't say that though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by @Keo View Post
    Ok here's the hottest take though: is it consensual between Sakura and Shirou if a large part of sakura's desire is zouken induced?
    Another interesting thought.
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    HF felt like Nasu holding up a megaphone and screaming, "LOOK AT HOW SAD THIS IS! ISN'T IT SAD? YOU SHOULD FEEL SAD!"


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    > Einzbern

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    Pick one


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    Palingenesis just sounds like we're creating Sarah Palin.


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    >tfw you betray your ideals to get some


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    In short, Japan's syncretism BS striked again.




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    doesn't necessarily have to have anything to do with quality of work
    It necessarily does, being a part of the work and thereby influencing the quality of the whole.

    Factor here is also how much porn is there. It's easy to turn a blind eye to two bad sex-scenes in a 100,000+ words route, but it's a different thing altogether when there's lots of sexytimes.
    My attempts at being a (fanfic) writer:

    Eclipse - a Saber Alter oneshot
    Requiem for a Race - Altrouge and Ortenrosse hunt the TAs ( 1/3 chapters, discontinued )
    Memories of a King - a 'Saber Origins' story ( 8/? chapters, discontiuned )
    A Small Warmth - a post UBW-Good oneshot, Saber/Rin
    Devil's Thrill - Narbareck hunts down a DAA Blackmore ( 10/10 chapters, finished )
    Boundary of Loneliness - Ryougi Shiki/Alphard Al-Shua oneshot. Lemon-flavoured

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    Quote Originally Posted by @Keo View Post
    Ok here's the hottest take though: is it consensual between Sakura and Shirou if a large part of sakura's desire is zouken induced?
    The origin of the existence called "Sakura" is "Senpai Lust," which is a fact that transcends biology, characters, and even franchise. As long as there's a Sakura and a senpai, the conclusion is inevitable, it would have happened with or without Zouken's interference.

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    Tsuukaku Zanryuu should serve as a good example to look back to both for the atmosphere of Sakura's/the Shadow's night scenes and the non-gratuitous depiction of sex where it serves a narrative purpose.

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    I guess it depends on how exactly they animate the sex: explicitly (but not like full-on hentai!) and with detail, or just brief shots to make it clear that there is indeed sex which is happening, like what you'd get out of a regular movie.
    The Manhattan Project: Is it a sin to kill for your country? In an age of nationalism, where do you draw the line between right and wrong? In the 1960s, eight people seek peace amidst war and tragedy.

    [11:20:46 AM] GlowStiks: lucina is supes attractive
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    The Heroic Spirit And The Sacred Feminine: A HF Analysis

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