Random Thoughts Thread

[SeiKeo]

A man at my workplace has burned his dick attempting to fuck a steak at home and I can't express how dumb this man is

You just gotta respect the goal though.

[Mujaya]

You may be an artist (though whether you're a good one, much less one capable of upholding any standards at all, is a different topic), but judging your statements here, you aren't an intellectual.
Let me try and offer you one piece of constructive advice: a good artist experiences more than they produce, and they also try and experience many different styles, ideas and worldviews exactly so as to broaden their mind.

Correct, I experience much more than I produce, in order to produce good things. I understand art. I am constantly absorbing aesthetic experiences through reading, listening, watching, and attempting to understand a multitude of different phenomena. What I understand as "bad" does not denote that I do not understand that "everything is good". What I understand as "bad" denotes my understanding of good things and bad things, as it would for anyone else. But what is "Good" is not what is subjective. "what is good" is "what is true", or "what works" and "truth serves life". To understand something is not to understand what is good about it or what is bad about it. To understand something is to understand why it works, or why it doesn't, and there are more things that don't work than things that do.

If I "didn't experience anything" I wouldn't know this. My mind is broad, and I am open to ideas, just ones that are valid, not "validated".

[Megas]

....like can you make a post without either patting yourself on the back or looking down your nose at someone else?

[Mujaya]

....like can you make a post without either patting yourself on the back or looking down your nose at someone else?

Prove that I'm doing this and I'll stop

[just Beamu]

You just gotta respect the goal though.

When you don't got a sock you make due

[Neir]

Correct, I experience much more than I produce, in order to produce good things. I understand art. I am constantly absorbing aesthetic experiences through reading, listening, watching, and attempting to understand a multitude of different phenomena. What I understand as "bad" does not denote that I do not understand that "everything is good". What I understand as "bad" denotes my understanding of good things and bad things, as it would for anyone else. But what is "Good" is not what is subjective. "what is good" is "what is true", or "what works" and "truth serves life". To understand something is not to understand what is good about it or what is bad about it. To understand something is to understand why it works, or why it doesn't, and there are more things that don't work than things that do.

If I "didn't experience anything" I wouldn't know this. My mind is broad, and I am open to ideas, just ones that are valid, not "validated".

this is an impressive amount of horseshit for one post

[Kyte]

No man is an island, but some like to believe they are continents.

[Snow]

Just to clarify, you're an architect, and you obviously know more than I do about architecture. We aren't discussing that. I'll re-answer your question step by step instead of attempting to generalize

I am paraphrasing here. To put it simply, brutalism is a style said to have been created by Le Cobusier and popularized by British architects in the mid-20th century. It's a style that places an emphasis more on a building's function and form; making it more "economically sensible and modest" and involving raw concrete, similar to the term: "Beton Brut" from which "Brutalism" is derived. However, not all concrete buildings are brutalist, and not all brutalist buildings are made of concrete.

The term "Brutalism" is derived from the French term "beton brut" which means "raw concrete". Alternatively, "Brutalism" is said to derive from the term "brute" which means:
1archaic : typical of beasts : animal
: suitable to one who lacks intelligence, sensitivity, or compassion : befitting a brute:
a : grossly ruthless or unfeelin
b : cruel, cold-blooded
c : harsh, severe
d : unpleasantly accurate and incisive
e : very bad or unpleasant


Fair enough; I'll attempt to refrain from -isms if we require specifics to engage in a serious discussion about aesthetics


No problem.

If i didn't, please elaborate. (again) I've studied works of philosophy and literature. I have delved into the hearts of many different people from my experiences, and I have many more things to experience. I'm pretty well versed on the existentialist philosophers, Nietzche to the greatest degree. I've been to plenty of art museums and done research on artists of different disciplines ranging from Francis Bacon to Virgil to Francisco Goya, as I've stated. I go both to modern art museums and classical art museums and research the subjects from time to time. You were questioning my knowledge of the characters of artists that I've gained from my experiences of art and I've seen people who are both venerable and dismal. I have done exactly that. Do you want me to understand socialists and leftists and communists? I understand them because I was one of them. They have serious issues.

I'm a bucko that has to clean it very often

The reason I have asked you these things is that in this day of instagram tag aesthetics two people can no longer expect to be starting from the same playing field with concepts as, well, dodgy as brutalism is. The word definitions don't capture the problematic adequately. If by LeC's definition (which is not actually his definition LeC was many things but he wasn't stupid), everything with exposed concrete is brutalism, and you cram under one roof such a huge swath of contradictory architectural approaches you're basically defining nothing but material expression, one that has literally existed for hundreds of years and came into being literally with the advent of the modern architectural canon in the west.

The Smithsons draw attention to a concept of art brut - outsider art. Outsider art is something akin to naive art, for all extents and purposes the same thing. The brut here, you will note, is not used to denote something lacking in nuance, intelligence and emotional depth, but in a sense somewhat similar to the concept of the noble savage. It looks outside the canon, outside the academia and established norms, for answers to a very old but in the context of modern human living very new problem -life in a community.

Concrete is a fundamental building material. It is practically inescapable, and its characteristics are so convenient to humans one would almost think it was meant to be discovered and used in such a way by us. Exposed concrete was for the longest time a logical and natural answer to the challenges of large-scale building, and that's how the job works - if something is good for the job, it's good. You embrace it. At least until you know better.

What you'd call examples of brutalism in the UK have aged terribly, and they're the card people pull in most cases when aesthetics of exposed concrete are being discussed. Why is that? Two major interconnected reasons: the climate, and the hard fact that the people these buildings were built for simply couldn't afford the intense upkeep and stuff like extra insulation work that these buildings would require to look good in the longrun in shitty moist weather. Look at the examples in, say, India, or Brazil, or the Mediterranean regions of Europe, Africa and the Middle East. They aged much better. Look at Montreal's Habitat 67, a giant, it looks good because it's posh af and also a monument and is being painstakingly renovated and kept in mint condition. Context.

In short, we don't really like the term brutalism. It misguides more than it explains, it's unfair to many great works of architecture, it's too generalizing and imprecise. And in this job, imprecision...is death!

[Five_X]

For real though people, this isn't going to end. Just ignore the guy because he's not going to learn anything and I think everyone else could use the time in a more valuable way.

[Snow]

But I like talking about buildingstuff erections!!!

[Five_X]

Please, no erections in public, this is a mod order

[Mujaya]

No man is an island, but some like to believe they are continents.

Examples of "you think you're better than everyone else" like this are really attempts to express the notion that "not thinking you're better than everyone else makes you better than everyone else" it's a hypocrisy. The fact that you have to make the statement is an attempt to highlight your own moral judgement, and therefore exalts you, making you superior. I have bothered none to make myself seem exalted.

[Prix with a Silent X]

Snow is now professionally qualified to see to it that her erections last forever.

[mAc Chaos]

I've been enjoying reading about architectural aesthetics. I forgot how much study of art there was interwoven into it.

[Kyte]

Examples of "you think you're better than everyone else" like this are really attempts to express the notion that "not thinking you're better than everyone else makes you better than everyone else" it's a hypocrisy. The fact that you have to make the statement is an attempt to highlight your own moral judgement, and therefore exalts you, making you superior. I have bothered none to make myself seem exalted.

No I'm saying you think yourself as intellectually self-sufficient, which btw simply cannot be true, and your incredible lack of self-reflection is quite sad to behold.

[I3uster]

shitpost mods leave and you guys fuck up the thirst thread with pagelong discussion this is vandalism

[SeiKeo]

shitpost mods leave and you guys fuck up the thirst thread with pagelong discussion this is vandalism

You’re doing a good job, keep it up.

[I3uster]

i am the counter force

[Tobias]

Please, no erections in public, this is a mod order

This mod order is hereby overturned.

stand proud my brothers, if you got it, flaunt it

[SeiKeo]

i am the counter force

However, we need you to pick a force to counter. Suggest gravity.