Right. Because she totally did that by herself and thus deserve lone credit for the feat.Originally Posted by BlackField
Right. Because she totally did that by herself and thus deserve lone credit for the feat.
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She forms the plan, she puts her life on the line, she puts in the bulk of the magic and financial investment.
Araya, what do you seek?
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------True wisdom.「――――真の叡智を」
Araya, where do you seek it?「アラヤ、何処に求める」
Only within myself.「――――ただ、己が内にのみ」
Araya, what is your favorite color?「アラヤ、好きな色は？」
Blue. No, ora-- Auuuuuuuugh!「青、いや、オレンジイイイイイアアアっ！」
Its the fact that she produced multiple spells that threatened/killed Heracles and produced a strategy that would get past Eye of the Mind(Fake) that was the feat.
Its fairly obvious that magi can't defeat servants in combat unless they are insanely powerful, so I didn't really think someone would take me suggesting she killed Heracles as saying she can fight Heracles.
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Dunno man, from the way you worded it's as if she charged against Heracles by her lonesome and beat the crap out of his twelve lives
Last edited by Tiresias; December 6th, 2012 at 09:02 AM.
You can't make an omelet without breaking a few Tohsaka. -Fafnir
Naruto is just a shitty little boy taking up space that would be otherwise taken up by competent, otaku-ego-crushing badasses. -Five_X
I anticipate the day when the HA translation comes out and everyone realizes that Caren is the least sexually dominant character in the universe. -Kotonoha
Gun control programs are actually a mage-financed government plot to make mankind start generating hero units again. -McJon
why is Ishizue Kanata that high? *Sorry. I don't read DDD* I heard she got unlimited stuff though.
Why does this list lack Ries, DoO and Vampire Sion?
And also If we count Sion as V.Sion or DAA Sion, why she not as high or higher than Wallachia?
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Wallachia can turn himself into all sorts of stuff, so he can hypothetically become stronger then either Sion variation. I guess Dust of Osiris might be stronger.
Kanata can't die and punches universes to death.
Araya, what do you seek?
「アラヤ、何を求める」
------True wisdom.「――――真の叡智を」
Araya, where do you seek it?「アラヤ、何処に求める」
Only within myself.「――――ただ、己が内にのみ」
Araya, what is your favorite color?「アラヤ、好きな色は？」
Blue. No, ora-- Auuuuuuuugh!「青、いや、オレンジイイイイイアアアっ！」
You should remember you are talking to me, the guy that keeps saying that was all Void and that even if she does have Self Hypnosis it wouldn't be anything like that scene.But that isn't including self hypnosis. Plus wasn't Tohno breaking his legs in the process? That doesn't seem like the two scenes to base their physical capabilities on.
Its all the Prana Rin can possibly generate in 10 years (she literally says 10 years worth of her Prana). Not as much as she put into all her other gems put together. Everything she can generate.I'm doubtful he taught Kotomine everything.
On the gem thing, if we go by his staff of doom, I reckon he probably doesn't have many gems at all, seems like his style is to have a few high quality goods rather than loads of gems. So it wouldn't shock me if that 10 year jewel had the majority of his gathered magical energy over his entire lifetime and that only equaled what Rin had gathered in 10 years.
But yeah, considering it has that much I guess you do have a point with that he puts everything into big toys and not a bunch of them.
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Kanata can't die, becomes immune to everything she's killed by (to the point that she's immune to nigh everything), if she does die she comes back to life, breaks planets and destroyer of universes, goes through the sun, etc. and a bunch of other stupid stuff. Ookuma guy is like, God.
Tatari and/or V Sion and DoO would be a lot higher then her current position (Well Tatari and DoO would be marginally higher then V Sion).
Last edited by Cruor; December 6th, 2012 at 10:32 AM.
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So she can't die permanently is like Scathach or Araya?
Only two things going on in that sentence and you managed to zoom in on the least relevant part. Starting to see why you're a Sion fan.
Hey, there is nothing wrong with focusing on the fine details. /Sion fanning
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How would a personality flip change her physique at all? They even talk about it before hand and during the scene so you know what's going on.
Araya, what do you seek?
「アラヤ、何を求める」
------True wisdom.「――――真の叡智を」
Araya, where do you seek it?「アラヤ、何処に求める」
Only within myself.「――――ただ、己が内にのみ」
Araya, what is your favorite color?「アラヤ、好きな色は？」
Blue. No, ora-- Auuuuuuuugh!「青、いや、オレンジイイイイイアアアっ！」
You're right, a mental change could never have that sort of effect. Only a mental change could do that.
Better question. How would Akasha perform self hypnosis.
Araya, what do you seek?
「アラヤ、何を求める」
------True wisdom.「――――真の叡智を」
Araya, where do you seek it?「アラヤ、何処に求める」
Only within myself.「――――ただ、己が内にのみ」
Araya, what is your favorite color?「アラヤ、好きな色は？」
Blue. No, ora-- Auuuuuuuugh!「青、いや、オレンジイイイイイアアアっ！」
Blah blah Akasha isn't human to begin with so it never had any of the mental limitations that normal human has to use self-hypnosis to remove or some bullshit like that. Book it, done.
In that case she would still be stronger then what Cruor is suggesting because self hypnosis is still a thing she can do and she's never used it in a fight.
New point, Ryougi Shiki jumping from ground zero of a dump truck fire bomb explosion to safety "in an instant" is more impressive then the Tohno and Kouma scene.
Araya, what do you seek?
「アラヤ、何を求める」
------True wisdom.「――――真の叡智を」
Araya, where do you seek it?「アラヤ、何処に求める」
Only within myself.「――――ただ、己が内にのみ」
Araya, what is your favorite color?「アラヤ、好きな色は？」
Blue. No, ora-- Auuuuuuuugh!「青、いや、オレンジイイイイイアアアっ！」
Araya mentions it, and goes wait that's wrong (about it being hypnosis) what the fuck you aren't Ryougi at all who the fuck are you. Then he realizes its " ". I say that was all " " because even Araya said that wasn't hypnosis.
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Where? I got nothing.“Hmph. A form of autohypnosis, as mages do when working the Art,” he mutters, his voice struggling to hold back the pain from his right arm.
Shiki shrugs. “Whatever you wanna call it, I guess.”
Alaya curses his own dismissal of her sudden shift in demeanor. When she opened her eyes; that’s when it must have occurred. To think the Ryōgi dynasty would still teach such vulgar disciplines. He knew too that Shiki bridging the space between them in what almost seemed like one step was no coincidence. Her movement, the sway of her sword, her attention, all focused and refined to make her a deadly living weapon, and she was the only one who knew about it. He had thought her tools to be only the Arcane Eyes of Death Perception and her knife, but in truth, her skill with the sword is far greater.
Araya, what do you seek?
「アラヤ、何を求める」
------True wisdom.「――――真の叡智を」
Araya, where do you seek it?「アラヤ、何処に求める」
Only within myself.「――――ただ、己が内にのみ」
Araya, what is your favorite color?「アラヤ、好きな色は？」
Blue. No, ora-- Auuuuuuuugh!「青、いや、オレンジイイイイイアアアっ！」
That wasn't even a magic battle, that was Medea looking down on her and playing her game of "let's throw mana at each other". It was more Magic Badminton than anything. Caster deliberately waited for her to throw something at her, or basically went, "*claps* good job, can you handle this one now?"who fought Medea in a magic battle
And she didn't even incapacitate her in one blow, even with the sync jewel combo on a surprise attack.
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