Everyone shall make powerlevel charts

[terraablaze]

“You have fooled me, Shiki Ryōgi. I had thought you had revealed all you could about your skill in combat when you danced with Fujino Asagami. But I see you have this one last trick.” Shiki shakes her head slowly in reply. Whether it is an affirmative or a disparaging negative, Alaya can’t say. “And so we meet properly at last,” he shouts as he pressed down on the gaping
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wound of his former right arm.
The girl in the white kimono reveals a smile, the first truly gentle smile she has performed; a smile that signals the end. Returning to her original hard posture, she runs toward Alaya like a loosed arrow. He knows that Shiki can read him now, knows what to expect, and so he won’t be able to dodge this next strike. But he won’t allow her to press the advantage so easily, not here in his sanctum. He gambles his chances on meeting Shiki’s advance. He steps forward, and shouts.

Still nope. Certainly nothing from Araya. And food never has talked about it. He always attributed it to self hypnosis.

Anyway, jumping out of the way of the firebomb explosion is still more impressive so that's that.

[Mcjon01]

Ugh cokesakto no no no

「……騙されたわ。浅上藤乃との殺し合いは、本気ではなかったという事か」
　魔術師の言葉に、両儀式はいいえ、と首を振って否定した。
　武器がなんであろうと、自分はつねに本気なのだと冷たい瞳が告げている。
　その眼差しを受けて、魔術師は気がついた。
　今―――この女はなんと答えた？
　ここにいる器はなんだ？
　この相手は―――いつからシキでなくなった？
「そうか……ようやく出会えたというわけか……！」

Cruor right, coke wrong.

Blah blah, tricked me, guess you weren't serious when you fought Fujino, Shiki shakes her head no and her eyes say she's always serious, Araya finally notices, when did this girl stop being Shiki, "Ah, so we finally meet!", dead Araya.

[Cruor]

wat

That 'and so we meet at last' is him realizing he's talking to " " and not Ryougi. Which made him go on about how he needs her body.

Wow I suck, I took so long to check text and was beaten by a person who checked and posted text.

[Rockxas]

Ugh cokesakto no no no

New signature right here.

[terraablaze]

Cruor was wrong about the fetus abortion thing. I had to make sure.

[Tobias]

Blah blah, tricked me, guess you weren't serious when you fought Fujino, Shiki shakes her head no and her eyes say she's always serious, Araya finally notices, when did this girl stop being Shiki, "Ah, so we finally meet!", dead Araya.

you shortened and paraphrased this to the point that I honestly dont know what you were trying to say with the quote now

so... fugly was holding back or...?

Cruor was wrong about the fetus abortion thing. I had to make sure.

Is that what that was about?

[terraablaze]

Ryougi Shiki in a sense always holds back because she can't just carry a sword around and doesn't use her yakuza connections to find the bomber and instead just walks into his traps herself.
Void Shiki is always serious, supposedly.

[Mcjon01]

so... fugly was holding back or...?

You have betrayed the covenant. You shall languish in your ignorance, I provide no answers to the forsaken.

[Tobias]

Ryougi Shiki in a sense always holds back because she can't just carry a sword around and doesn't use her yakuza connections to find the bomber and instead just walks into his traps herself.
Void Shiki is always serious, supposedly.

ah, makes...somewhat, more sense

You have betrayed the covenant. You shall languish in your ignorance, I provide no answers to the forsaken.

wrong sir, wrong! I specifically said I reserved the right to continue belittling and insulting because being tsundere was in vogue.


Tis YOU who has forgotten the covenant.

[Cruor]

you shortened and paraphrased this to the point that I honestly dont know what you were trying to say with the quote now

so... fugly was holding back or...?



Is that what that was about?

It was about whether the Ryougi beating Araya was either Ryougi or Void. I was saying Void terra was saying Ryougi. So Mcjon posted a part where Araya is pretty much sayig that isn't Ryougi and wondering who the fuck he is talking to because it totally isn't Ryougi. Which is something Coke left out.

[terraablaze]

Oh I know it was Void. I was just saying that self hypnosis is a normal Shiki skill the same way Void can't speak any languages she doesn't know.

[Mcjon01]

wrong sir, wrong! I specifically said I reserved the right to continue belittling and insulting because being tsundere was in vogue.


Tis YOU who has forgotten the covenant.

Did I ever respond to that post? I thought I ignored it.

[terraablaze]

Disqualified on the grounds that you would have to possess actual affection for her for you to be tsundere. Unless you plan on being a classic tsundere that warms up to her later. Are we seeing a closet Shiki fan in the making?

[Tobias]

didn't you know? to not respond to something is to tacitly approve of it.

Dont make me break out the Godwin, Ill do it.

Disqualified on the grounds that you would have to possess actual affection for her for you to be tsundere. Unless you plan on being a classic tsundere that warms up to her later. Are we seeing a closet Shiki fan in the making?

oh no, see apparently I always have been. this means all the jokes I make about shiki are retroactivly not offensive due to the law of tsundere. which means I can make all the horse face jokes I want and this time nobody can be mad, because hey, I am just being tsun tsun.

See? it used to annoy ryougi fans, but now when I do it its cute.

dont worry, that dere side of me will be coming out anytime now.


...anytime.

[Dartz]

Why did you put V/V so high? Also, what criteria are you using for the positions? The Japanese fans base the position of the characters on comprehensive consideration of direct matchups, beating higher-tier characters, and stablility against lower ones. That seems like the best way to rate them.

[Cruor]

I mainly used overall power as the most important unless the characters in question could really just roll over everyone in below that area. But there are some flakey things like Alter being higher then Dark Sakura because Shirou kept saying Alter was stronger then her in game.

For instance V/V is really huge because she could like, destroy the world like ez pz if it wanted if it gets its roots into the environment (but I feel 1v1 ORT is quite more overwhelming, Ii guess? Iunno lol). Of course Archtype could do the same but I personally felt rushing and putting her higher woulda been slightly rushing, I guess? ORT could prolly be lower, while he could fuck over any army of monsters we don't know if he has any world destroying/fucking abilities outside of CV.

Sasaki, Diarmuid, and Lancelot (Lance lot should be lower but there wasn't enough space lol) are good examples of people who I think are awesome Servants but I would rate lowly on this tier list because while they would roll 1v1 w/out NP they wouldn't output the same of things others could do near that tier. I should actually have put Lancer (both, I guess?), Archer, Medea, and Francis Drake a bit higher but again no space.

Berseker is meanwhile someone who I think can do it successfully. And to a lesser extent, Kouma.

And just because one character is seemingly higher tier doesn't mean characters below can't beat them. Hence, Shiki vs Roa (Well, the Roa on my list is so retarded because I have no idea what Roa I am talking about there lol) or something. I also think, Kiri could beat Shiki and quite a few other pretty far above him. But he can't really do as much as the people above him so was pushed to a lot lower tier.

I think quite a few characters seemed to have been randomly placed lol. But yeah, as you can see even if I say my reasoning a lot of characters just seem to be in the wrong area (I could put a list).

Actual tiers go something like:

Gods
Type tier
Broken tier
Really Super Strong Servants
Super Strong Servants
Servant tier
Near Servant tier
Supah powahful humans
Strong humans
Pretty good
Normals

You can probably see which area is which, for instance that huge mess of blue being Servant tier.

Oh I know it was Void. I was just saying that self hypnosis is a normal Shiki skill the same way Void can't speak any languages she doesn't know.

Oh okay, then yeah, Ryougi could have it, yeah, but again, I'm not sure how big of a difference it would have made I still don't think it would have been as powerful as what Araya described.

[Seika]

Dartz: the first person to take the thread seriously.

(Don't take it seriously).

(until Seika comes in and somehow spinecrushes this)

Well, if you insist ...

... Τρώων ὑπὸ τείχεϊ θωρηκτάων
λαιψηροῖς ὀλέεσθαι Ἀπόλλωνος βελέεσσιν.

... that beneath the walls of the armoured Trojans
I will die by Apollo's swift arrows.

[SeiKeo]

Man this thread is sure turning out differently than Badass VS huh.

[Cruor]

Its because I am trying to get people to take it seriously so I can watch the war and not others watching me vainly to get people to take it seriously.

[Aiden]

Ranking Ultimate Ones below gods?

Uh ...