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    Well, the point of の in those cases are to act as a dummy noun for the は to attach to. It isn't necessarily wrong to think of は as being noun only, but in practice it's not a particularly useful insight.

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    Oh yeah, わ being replaced with は is a menace.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deathhappens View Post
    Oh yeah, わ being replaced with は is a menace.
    I am suddenly reminded of how that was a genuine plot point that nearly caused the apocalypse in the VN "Our World is* Ended".

    *Bad grammar intended as a way for the localisation to represent the fact the JPN title used わ instead of は.
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    Wa for Wa can be a bit awkward, but after like a day or two of practice I was more used to it being Wa than Ha.
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    does anyone have experience changing font to japanese in anki

    my font (chinese)


    what it should be


    google told me to change my card styling but i added this to the template styling

    .card {
    font-family: noto;
    font-size: 25px;
    text-align: center;
    color: White;
    background-color: Black;
    lang=ja-jp;
    }
    and it does nothing

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    i got it working nvm
    downloaded and installed the meiryo font, restarted pc, changed font-family to meiryo for reference

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    I've been using Anki for 7 years and I've never bothered to fix this lol

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    the daily japanese thread was bullying me and said if i didn't fix it i was ngmi

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    Is there a way to scale the time on my Anki deck temporarily? I've fallen behind and Anki still thinks that I need to wait 4+ months until getting the next card.
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    i think you can force reviews, check the options menu (as in long tap)
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    I get this vague feeling from your posts that you're looking down on people who don't share your view, which is what it is, but at least take a moment to snort some common sense between those hits of pretension.
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    My opinion is better than your opinion, so it isn't up for debate.
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    Telling us that you're rich is not going to make anyone stop laughing at you for believing in self-insert NTR.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Temflakes403 View Post
    i think you can force reviews, check the options menu (as in long tap)
    I don't see that option. I do see an "interval modifier", but I'm too scared to touch it because I have no idea what most of the settings do.

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    Ideally I could scale the time temporarily. I think it wouldn't take me to long to redrill them enough that I can resume where I left off, since the affected cards are mainly the ones I was doing really well on (back when I was keeping up).
    I think it goes: "I don't trust people like me." — no, that's not it…

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    Quote me on this, 10 years from now TM will not release a global VN work.

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    So if たち isn't exactly a plural marker, is it closer in meaning to a mass noun?
    I think it goes: "I don't trust people like me." — no, that's not it…

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    Its more defining trait is that it's basically only ever used to refer to people, unlike both plurals and mass nouns.

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    I was thinking of this a couple weeks ago (specifically when reading some L5R modules that referred to "samurai-sans" or "samas" (no noun, just the honorific), but what's a good list of proper collective honorifics for use in such cases? I'm only familiar with -tachi and the more archaic, I believe -gata, but there's got to be more, and I don't really know the proper context for these either.
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    It's like with centaur girls, you're fucking a horse. Sure the human part is the one that moans but your dick is in the horse, no way around it.
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    boytoy angst > fulfilling life of misanthropic extremist environmentalism
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    ladies, he's single
    Quote Originally Posted by OverMaster View Post
    Yeah, but that's because he's got more issues than National Geographic.
    Quote Originally Posted by Araya's Dry Cleaner View Post
    You can rage, but there is no waifu communism.

    You are not getting government-handout waifus.


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    Tono. If I remember my Lone Wolf and Cub correctly, it usually means "my lord", but can also be used to show extreme respect - Kenshin, for example, calls Kaoru "Kaoru-dono".

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    Uh, yes (I believe it literally stands for "liege"), but it's not collective. That is, it's not used to refer to multiple people.
    shit BL says

    Quote Originally Posted by I3uster View Post
    It's like with centaur girls, you're fucking a horse. Sure the human part is the one that moans but your dick is in the horse, no way around it.
    Quote Originally Posted by You View Post
    boytoy angst > fulfilling life of misanthropic extremist environmentalism
    Quote Originally Posted by Rafflesiac View Post
    ladies, he's single
    Quote Originally Posted by OverMaster View Post
    Yeah, but that's because he's got more issues than National Geographic.
    Quote Originally Posted by Araya's Dry Cleaner View Post
    You can rage, but there is no waifu communism.

    You are not getting government-handout waifus.


    Once and always and nevermore.

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    I'm trying to get back into serious Japanese learning, so I have a few questions:

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    1. Does pitch accent serve the same role as stress accent does in English (where it does distinguish words sometimes, but isn't technically required to be understandable)? Or is it more like Chinese tones (where the tones basically function as distinct vowels)? I've never found a clear answer to this.

    2. Are there any vocabulary sources that actually note pitch accents for words?

    3. What is the best way to get basic vocabulary and kanji (I'm assuming its best to learn them as one) when you're essentially starting from anime buzzwords? This has been a problem for me because most sources I've seen (like anki decks) have pretty random selections, are difficult to get started with if you don't already know the kanji shown, have suspiciously simple one-word definitions, and never mention more than one kanji reading.

    4. What is up with ん? It being assimilated by the consonants that follow it is intuitive, but what about the mysterious pronunciation that occurs at the end of words? Every pronunciation source I've seen gives a different answer. Sometimes they say its basically an M sound, other times they say its a nasalized vowel, and other other times they say its a uvular nasal.

    5. Should I bother with handwriting/learning stroke order?

    6. What are some things I should do or avoid early to prevent problems later?

    7. Out of curiosity, if you were to convert Japanese reading levels to English reading levels how difficult would the average Nasuverse work (or mangas/lns/vns in general) be?

    8. Anything you'd recommend I look into or learn that I might have overlooked?


    Point #3 is particularly frustrating because I read the English dictionary often, so I know that a single one-word definition with no other notes is almost never correct, especially for the most common and basic words. I also noticed this with some Japanese words I've looked up, where they are usually explained with a simple 1:1 translation. But I often find out that they are compound words, or are used metaphorically, are more specific than mentioned, are old-fashioned, or just have a lot more meanings that went unmentioned.

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    By the way, I've been finding that even though I can't understand Japanese, just being "familiar" with it has increased my enjoyment of many shows. Its always cool when you are absent-mindedly watching a show, when you suddenly notice that a character's special move's name is not only over-the-top in English, but also a freakishly long sequence of puns in Japanese (even if you still don't know what those words mean).
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    Check out Dogen's videos for pitch accent things

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6Ao...qKz1YP&index=1

    if you are looking for pitch accent for one word, you could use https://www.wadoku.de/ (it's in german, but shows the pitch accent) and I think Dogen or someone else mentions that Apple Dictionary also shows pitch accent.

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    but to answer #1 it's neither imo, speaking with broken pitch still makes through if enough context is given
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    So, is it particularly common for Japanese prose to shift POV from first to third person whenever it feels like it? This is throwing me off big time

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    Yes, it's pretty much always like this.

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