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    Sadly (read: darples and leo, what're you doin') I don't believe demanding a recount - making certain all of Nasho's are counted and included - is going to happen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Pulse View Post
    Leo set up the album. Don't blame me on this.
    I'm more willing to believe you forgot to include'em when you sent'em to him than that he forgot to add'em to the album.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyte View Post
    Doesn't make my response less true. :V
    Is that to be read as "I just wanted to tell you that because... well, I feel old adages like "if you have nothing nice to say, say nothing" are really fucking stupid!"?
    Last edited by Tohno; January 31st, 2013 at 02:17 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tohno View Post
    Is that to be read as "I just wanted to tell you that because... well, I feel old adages like "if you have nothing nice to say, say nothing" are really fucking stupid!"
    It is a pretty terrible adage. People being people, we're much more often blind to where we're crap than where we're good. To limit yourself to just being complimentary is to actively refuse to help people fix their bad spots. You can hurt their feelings for a bit or you can let them hurt themselves until someone braver speaks up, or they themselves screw up so badly they have to recognise it. And that's not going to be pleasant for them either.

    Anyway, take it as it's said. He reckons his criticisms are valid whether Spy was joking or not; he stands by them. No need to put more into it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seika View Post
    It is a pretty terrible adage. People being people, we're much more often blind to where we're crap than where we're good. To limit yourself to just being complimentary is to actively refuse to help people fix their bad spots. You can hurt their feelings for a bit or you can let them hurt themselves until someone braver speaks up, or they themselves screw up so badly they have to recognise it. And that's not going to be pleasant for them either.

    Anyway, take it as it's said. He reckons his criticisms are valid whether Spy was joking or not; he stands by them. No need to put more into it.
    No, no, here’s how it went.
    Spy (playfully, from what I can see) boasted about their mass banners, and people like Koto-nee playfully nudged back with a cheeky remark about that book, and Spy good-naturedly took and it was all fun and silliness till

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    Now… you know, that adage still holds true and valid. Why? Because constructive criticism is nice. It shows you care about that person enough to help them out. Insulting someone isn’t helpful, isn’t nice, and just shows how much of a dick the speaker is.

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    Except that Kyte actually gave examples of why he thought Spy's banners had a high attrition rate. He didn't mince his words, whether because he didn't have the patience or didn't think he'd get through by being more polite, but he wasn't just being insulting.

    And after enough mentions - and Spy didn't just leave it at the one - you get the feeling there is some soreness behind it, however couched in joking terms they might be. Particularly when there among them are those which sound perfectly serious, like this: Of course not, but considering I made over a hundred Banners, I was kinda hoping for a bit more than eleven.
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    He wasn’t just being insulting? If he was trying to give constructive criticism, does he just have no social skills or forgot what was constructive about it? Why did he feel the need to stick his oar in when the others had covered the matter already?
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    Spy honestly half your banners were boring, badly laid out or just plain uninspired. Take a pic, crop pic, slap text on. That was it.

    It's easy to shovel out dozens of banners that way.

    Grow up and take this as a sign that you aren't god's gift to photoshoppers and you need to put some actual effort into things.
    What happens when you have like… oh, 1 point.
    Spy, I’m afraid to say I was rather discouraged from selecting too many of the banners you made. Compared to some of the other creations, I felt that they didn’t have the creativity necessary to warrant my vote. Perhaps if you were more creative with the manner in which you created them, and put a little more time in, you could gain more votes. After all, as the others have already expressed, quality definitely wins over quantity.

    I’m not going to mention anything about god’s gifts or photoshopping, because that would be just silly and kind of rude at this point.

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    Or maybe we could have a mini poll on which of my banners would be chosen?

    I mean, they are made from scratch.
    Last edited by Nashoki; January 31st, 2013 at 09:07 AM.
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    You're doing it wrong, Nasho. You need to be more forceful!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tohno View Post
    He wasn’t just being insulting? If he was trying to give constructive criticism, does he just have no social skills or forgot what was constructive about it? Why did he feel the need to stick his oar in when the others had covered the matter already?
    D&D 101
    What happens when you have -4 diplomacy skill.

    What happens when you have like… oh, 1 point.
    Good god that's awful get me away from it. Oh, and it's not like I need to bother being polite in a forum, I don't even like Spy to begin with. :V

    That said, Spy's technical skills are good, it's just that most of his banners plain exude laziness in their creation and that had me annoyed for the entirety of the banner process 'cause I feared volume might end up pushing out infinitely higher-quality banners (insert Kotonoha-fanboying here).

    Also my criticism is plenty constructive! It says exactly what's wrong with them. Constructive criticism is not about being nice, it's about clearly identifying the issues that surround the work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nashoki View Post
    Or maybe we could have a mini poll on which of my banners would be chosen?

    I mean, they are made from scratch.
    TORCH THE HOMES SALT THE EARTH.
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    Let's make Darples add at least 2 of Nasho's banners to the final approval.

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    I just made mine and posted them in the hopes that they might inspire someone else who liked the characters or idea.

    Also Nasho, you need to use Excalibolg on Darples and Leo!

    [edit] Just hit Leo; Darples is in the clear.
    Last edited by Lycodrake; January 31st, 2013 at 10:20 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyte View Post
    I'm more willing to believe you forgot to include'em when you sent'em to him than that he forgot to add'em to the album.
    We have a topic where every single banner is listed. But since you apparently won't believe me...



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    Quote Originally Posted by Nashoki View Post
    Or maybe we could have a mini poll on which of my banners would be chosen?

    I mean, they are made from scratch.
    Sounds fair, since most people would have voted before your stuff was added, and not been made aware when it was added.

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    It was posted here, and even the global announcement changed. Though if we do want a halfway even number, I guess we can add 2 to get to 75? OCD everywhere satisfied.
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    Quote Originally Posted by I3uster View Post
    It was posted here, and even the global announcement changed. Though if we do want a halfway even number, I guess we can add 2 to get to 75? OCD everywhere satisfied.
    Why is the number being limited to 70 anyway? All the randomizers I know of generally support over 100...

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    I liked the Saber one, but it fell out somewhere in the transition from my ~25 shortlist to my final 10.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheSpy View Post
    Why is the number being limited to 70 anyway? All the randomizers I know of generally support over 100...
    Because I needed to pick a number somewhere and 70 sounded like nice variety. I am all for calling it 74 so the voting cutoff works properly instead of dropping 4 for no reason.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LeopardBear View Post
    Because I needed to pick a number somewhere and 70 sounded like nice variety. I am all for calling it 74 so the voting cutoff works properly instead of dropping 4 for no reason.
    You're the boss, just kinda seemed wasteful to me.

    Unless you plan holding more of these in the future to add or replace banners?

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    It's tbd.
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