OMG is the translation project really dead again? When did this happen?
OMG is the translation project really dead again? When did this happen?
I'll assume that's not some sort of post-sarcasm joke, but no, this is just the old thread for McJon's patch that someone necro'd for some reason. HM's project thread is in the Translation subforum.
Originally Posted by Mcjon01
Oh you got me. I don't follow this topic but as soon as an english patch is up I will read Mahoyo. I was just suprised and wasn't in on the joke LOL
Wait am I crazy or aren't there two mahoyo threads on BL?
Your not a TYPE MOON fan if you don't even own a TM Merch or haven't fapped to a TM character.
Seems like it. One where spoilers are allowed, and one were they aren't, looks like. I didn't know about this thread at all lol, only the other one. I guess this one must have been buried beneath other threads. I had a question about the game, and I want to avoid spoilers, so this topic is better for me, but I decided to risk reading the replies to my post in the other topic, since my post was moved there, and I don't want to retype it here.
"The world is just another word for the things you value around you, right? That's something I've had since I was born. If you tell me to rule such a world, I already rule it."
so how is the translation folks
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Seems pretty solid to me, so far, if a bit over-localized in some places. I'm currently messing around with extracting data from the Switch builds to see how much work it would be to patch the HD textures (and possibly TL) into the OG PC game.
What do you mean by "over-localized? I hope it's nothing major since I find that stuff kinda weird. (I haven't played the game yet, that's why I'm asking)
It uses imperial units instead of metric so it's literally unreadable
This would be much, much appreciated, speaking as someone with no consoles. I know emulation is a possibility, but patching a TL into a PC native game would be that much easier.
Seriously? Ugh...*groan*
"The world is just another word for the things you value around you, right? That's something I've had since I was born. If you tell me to rule such a world, I already rule it."
The biggest thing I've noticed are the translation of honorifics into "Miss" and the like. There's also one instance of a (very strange) joke/reference made by the teacher in the first chapter about Lewis and Clark? It's a voiced line too, so you can tell that that's not what he said, though I am assuming that the original is referencing some famous Japanese explorer. These aren't common enough to be especially annoying to me yet, and as I said, the TL is quite good otherwise, IMO. Certainly more understandable than the old TL through French.
Oh, and they also don't seem to know what an em dash is, and use hyphens instead.
It's always the honorifics, isn't it? I don't know, I feel like every solution to translating honorifics is wrong hahah.
The em dash and hypen thing is rather weird though. They serve entirely different purposes so it's kind of funky to see hypens where em dashes should be. Unless the font is just odd like that.
Anyway, it's good to hear that overall translation is well put together since it is really scary when it comes to console games.
In other news, I think I understand the formats well enough to be able to start work on an HD and TL patch generator for PC
It's overly-"Americanized":
The translation would literally cut out stuff ans you could tell it was cut out because the voices would keep on talking.Well one big example is they cut out sentences a lot:
And add in bizarre Americanisms, to the point of cutting out jokes or character quirks:Spoiler:I don't even call it localization anymore
it's americanization
the translator from time to time rears their head with audible American references
and cuts out like English tea brand names
even when the brand name is called out in EnglishW h a tit magically vanishes in textThey cut out the fucking TEA?yesTL seems to be overall fine but has some wacko americanizationThe tea is actually important to Alice' being an english shithead, lmaoThey mention tea but no brands I thinkYeah but the brands lead to Alice being an "exquisite" lady jokealso I hate how the translator just leaves out nuanced jokes
Shizuki asks about how everyone just goes to school to learn shit
and then tell Yamashiro that this school is very "school"
instead we get "Yep this is a real school"there's misrepresentations almost every sentence
and it's not an accident or error
it's intentional
like, "well, dumb american readers wouldn't care / understand x, right? so let's just skip over a bunch of sentences and / or change things to an americanism"It's to the point you can notice the translation has cut out stuff thanks to there being voices.I am so glad that this edition has voiceovers
so I can actually hear the dialog for myself
even with my very rough feel for Japanese I can hear big differences in just some of the spoken lines
It's terrible.
AFAICT, the engine is such that the lines in each language must match up perfectly. One 'line' in JP matches up with one 'line' in English, even if they physically appear to be different lengths. (On that note, it would also be ridiculously easy to create a patch which replaces the lines in the TL with something different. I could probably get that going tomorrow.)
Whould you mind helping a my dumbass out?
When you are saying that it is ridiculously easy to patch, do you mean patching voice lines to the 2012 pc game or "fixing" the TL for the switch game? I assume that you are taking about the new one. Is it really that easy to patch a switch game then? You'd also need a retranslation.
This is a genuine question I'm just kinda dumb like this, sorry
I mean patching the TL for Switch. The format that the text is in is simple enough to modify, then it's just a matter of generating a mod that can be loaded by an emulator.
This quoteblock is an absolute mess. Anyways, some bits of prose being oversimplified is absolutely a problem with the English release. I don't disagree with that point in the slightest. But wow, this post of yours sucks at picking examples. Sure, the first Fallacies screenshot demonstrates perfectly the issue at hand, but every other "proof" are just obvious cuts of trademarked names that aren't worth the legal hassle.
Y'all think it is worth it to drop the money on the collector's edition or nah?
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