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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirby View Post
    Normally I like tomes too, but I sadly I never got to use them much so far. I mean, Leo and Camilla are good mages, but Odin is better as samurai and I just haven't used Nyx. I dunno if the magic users in general here are worse, or if it's something else. Welp
    Mages in Fates have been nerfed, particularly in Conquest because enemies have higher Resistance and Ninjas (a staple Hoshidan unit) are specifically designed as mage killers.

    Hoshidan mages are also kind of gimped because Orochi has ass Speed and defenses and Hayato joins late in Birthright.

    Hayato in Revelation and Ophelia in general are good though.

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    Who gives a lord a staff though?
    More healers is hardly a bad thing
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirby View Post
    Normally I like tomes too, but I sadly I never got to use them much so far. I mean, Leo and Camilla are good mages, but Odin is better as samurai and I just haven't used Nyx. I dunno if the magic users in general here are worse, or if it's something else. Welp
    I hear changing Nyx into a Witch makes her a better unit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nuclear Consensus View Post
    I hear changing Nyx into a Witch makes her a viable unit.
    Well it gives her promotion stat boosts early without wasting levels so duh


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    Quote Originally Posted by The Geek View Post
    Hoshidan mages are also kind of gimped because Orochi has ass Speed and defenses and Hayato joins late in Birthright.
    Once I got Orochi leveled up and reclassed she's actually fairly destructive, enough, along with the fact she can heal now too, she's one of my main units. I mean she's not Rathat the Destroyer, but she holds her own. (Pairing Hayate with Mozo was a good decision . . .)

    Even though Shiro only does okay damage, he's tough so I use him to tank a choke point.



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    Quote Originally Posted by The Geek View Post
    More healers is hardly a bad thing
    I mean with reclassing that isn't much of an issue, but that isn't the point.

    Who gives a lord staffs? I mean can you imagine Ike running around treating wounds?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ramen View Post
    I mean with reclassing that isn't much of an issue, but that isn't the point.

    Who gives a lord staffs? I mean can you imagine Ike running around treating wounds?
    I can easily. Having a healer who can tank out and/or avoid physical hits, and then retaliate as such sounds like one hell of a healer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by absolutezero001 View Post
    I can easily. Having a healer who can tank out and/or avoid physical hits, and then retaliate as such sounds like one hell of a healer.
    Well he wouldn't be able to fight back in PoR because he'd be equipping a staff. In RD he'd be stuck counterattacking with a staff.

    Though tbf I can't remember if staffs were actually that bad or if it was just the guys holding them.

    Staffs in RD all have 1 mt so it wouldn't be very good.
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    Micaiah makes an amazing healer in RD because of her redonkulous magic stat.
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    Just beat Conquest. The ending... wasn't too hard if you just paid attention.

    Now I must wait for funds to buy the other 2 versions.

    The game really just ended up, put Xander/Keaton or their children at chokepoint. Everyone else picks off the others. Use Archers to deal with bullshit mages and counterattack units.

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    Staff Savant says nope on Chapter 26 at least

    Then again that one you can cheese another way

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    He got his share of woes as with other players, but it has been overwhelmed by the sheer amount of different SSRs, both as F2P and P2P.

    I don't even wish to stand beside him as I got 2 consecutive IRs at my work the very same month after I got Jeanne.
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    26 was infuriating, not as much as ninja levels but Hans and the knights dive bombing you the moment you open the door is really BS.

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    That's why you have an Entrap staff and Hans has poor resistance

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    Quote Originally Posted by hayate View Post
    He's the exception. We see him swimming in with the
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    He got his share of woes as with other players, but it has been overwhelmed by the sheer amount of different SSRs, both as F2P and P2P.

    I don't even wish to stand beside him as I got 2 consecutive IRs at my work the very same month after I got Jeanne.
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    Okay:

    First of all, a big FUCK YOU to everyone who got Holmes
    Second of all, a DOUBLE FUCK YOU at Laith because asahkwbebnfj,hhfshfls;
    Third of all, a TRIPLE FUCK YOU to people who quote Laith's gacha posts. THE WHOLE POINT OF HAVING HIM IN MY IGNORE LIST IS TO PREVENT THIS
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    You can lessen their numbers by using Entrap to pull them out and pick them off one by one. Though you need a lot of Entraps.

    It works on Hans too.
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    well if you pull hans you aggro the whole room iirc

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    He got his share of woes as with other players, but it has been overwhelmed by the sheer amount of different SSRs, both as F2P and P2P.

    I don't even wish to stand beside him as I got 2 consecutive IRs at my work the very same month after I got Jeanne.
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    Okay:

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    Second of all, a DOUBLE FUCK YOU at Laith because asahkwbebnfj,hhfshfls;
    Third of all, a TRIPLE FUCK YOU to people who quote Laith's gacha posts. THE WHOLE POINT OF HAVING HIM IN MY IGNORE LIST IS TO PREVENT THIS
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ramen View Post
    I mean with reclassing that isn't much of an issue, but that isn't the point.

    Who gives a lord staffs? I mean can you imagine Ike running around treating wounds?
    Well I don't really mind that, it's not like it's a dedicated healer. Getting a free staff user is pretty useful. Also reclassed Camilla, cause she didn't seem to be a good magic user, but I guess I just had bad growths? Oh well Wyvern Lord is still doing work.

    Gotta have your own unit be some special snowflake that can make use out of magic regardless and also strength, cause why not? I really hate how Corrin is the lord and the importance of the player character, I would rather just be some random class that joins the main character, if the avatar stuff stays which is of course will, so more like Kris from twelve but maybe less overpowered.

    Also writing suffers with all these supports, would be great if most characters had less supports once again and most couldn't marry or that was remove, not that it will, so just limiting it would be nice. I don't really care for "my unit" anyways so I'm okay if that one's support writing is garbage cause he's gotta support everyone, once again unlike Kris who didn't support that many. Ah well point is I don't like the avatar stuff as it is right now and I never pretend that's me anyways.

    I wonder how bad it is that I cheesed chapter 19 lost a unit just before the end so I had my avatar more or less solo the entire map, not that it made much of a difference as I had the idea of doing it like that because the first time around 80% of the enemies decided to commit suicide on Corrin anyways. I'll miss those two weapon ranks and 3 levels I've gotten on some other characters, but more so than that I really hope this doesn't bite me later on. At least my level 9 Avatar can be pair up fodder for quite a long time now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Malgos View Post
    Well I don't really mind that, it's not like it's a dedicated healer. Getting a free staff user is pretty useful. Also reclassed Camilla, cause she didn't seem to be a good magic user, but I guess I just had bad growths? Oh well Wyvern Lord is still doing work.

    Gotta have your own unit be some special snowflake that can make use out of magic regardless and also strength, cause why not? I really hate how Corrin is the lord and the importance of the player character, I would rather just be some random class that joins the main character, if the avatar stuff stays which is of course will, so more like Kris from twelve but maybe less overpowered.

    Also writing suffers with all these supports, would be great if most characters had less supports once again and most couldn't marry or that was remove, not that it will, so just limiting it would be nice. I don't really care for "my unit" anyways so I'm okay if that one's support writing is garbage cause he's gotta support everyone, once again unlike Kris who didn't support that many. Ah well point is I don't like the avatar stuff as it is right now and I never pretend that's me anyways.

    I wonder how bad it is that I cheesed chapter 19 lost a unit just before the end so I had my avatar more or less solo the entire map, not that it made much of a difference as I had the idea of doing it like that because the first time around 80% of the enemies decided to commit suicide on Corrin anyways. I'll miss those two weapon ranks and 3 levels I've gotten on some other characters, but more so than that I really hope this doesn't bite me later on. At least my level 9 Avatar can be pair up fodder for quite a long time now.
    TBH I've never needed as many healers as you guys seem to use. I usually don't use all the ones I'm given, much less need more.

    I don't really see Corrin as self insert so that stuff didn't bother me too much. I do agree that the game has too many supports.

    Oh and good luck with chapter 20, that one was a real pain.
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    uuuh kris had a support with everyone tho

    also i want another robin since kris is useless story wise and corrin is absolutely infuriating and kinda offensive if writers think you can self-insert as him/her tbh

    e: eeh supports are okay some land some don't same as always

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    He got his share of woes as with other players, but it has been overwhelmed by the sheer amount of different SSRs, both as F2P and P2P.

    I don't even wish to stand beside him as I got 2 consecutive IRs at my work the very same month after I got Jeanne.
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    Okay:

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    Third of all, a TRIPLE FUCK YOU to people who quote Laith's gacha posts. THE WHOLE POINT OF HAVING HIM IN MY IGNORE LIST IS TO PREVENT THIS
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    You probably want to keep Camilla as a Malig Knight because Trample is a pretty sweet skill.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Laith View Post
    eeh supports are okay some land some don't same as always
    I mean at least it didn't pull a RD and have no support conversations.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Laith View Post
    uuuh kris had a support with everyone tho

    also i want another robin since kris is useless story wise and corrin is absolutely infuriating and kinda offensive if writers think you can self-insert as him/her tbh

    e: eeh supports are okay some land some don't same as always
    Oh he did? I totally forgot then, probably cause I didn't get that many. Thank you for pointing that out, else I probably would've gone on for quite a while believing that. Been so long since I played that game. Still I don't particularly mind if the Avatar gets a support with everyone, and bad writing ensures for the Avatar because there's only so much you can do with it, as long as the regular ones get a decent amount of supports, like 3-5. Instead of these stupid Avatar only supports and what not. Anyways my bad. At least I didn't make a total ass of myself and said I didn't mind if the Avatar supports anyone in advance.

    Well I'd be okay with it if your own character has a bit more story relevance, but I felt that Robin is a bit too important for me, but it's way better than having the lord be your own character. I guess around Robin is okay for me, although I'd prefer if he were a bit less relevant.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ramen View Post
    TBH I've never needed as many healers as you guys seem to use. I usually don't use all the ones I'm given, much less need more.

    I don't really see Corrin as self insert so that stuff didn't bother me too much. I do agree that the game has too many supports.

    Oh and good luck with chapter 20, that one was a real pain.
    Well I'm not using all my healers either, although I have Adventurer Niles, Felicia and Elise as staff users, I'm just saying that even if you choose magic as your bane (like me!) rescue staff utility and what not still makes staves great. Really can't go wrong with having a access to those sort of things if you happen to be in a bad spot. Also great, sounds like Chapter 20 may make me regret feeding all the chapter 19 kills to the Avatar, then again as said even when I approached it normally 80% committed suicide on my Swordmaster Avatar with Vantage. Until one enemy passed through went invincible with 2 hp and then proceeded to kill Felicia. It's just nice to have and staff range doesn't seem to scale off of magic... Or does it? I don't have access to staves on my Nohr path so I can't checked with my magic as bane Avatar. And the rest has decent enough magic.

    Speaking of magic, it's amazing how Felicia went from almost benched to being a good unit only by obtaining the Flame Shuriken in Bitter Intrigue.
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