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    Posted this in another Thread but just as relevant here, please give feedback


    Caster
    Original Name: Abe no Seimei
    Alignment: Neutral Good
    Strength: E
    Agility: E
    Endurance: C
    Prana: A+
    Luck: A
    Noble Phantasm: A

    =Skills=
    Territory Construction: A
    The skill to build a special terrain that is advantageous to oneself as a magus. At rank A: Creation of a "Temple", which is superior to a "Workshop", becomes possible.

    Item Construction: B
    Possible to produce talismans and wards used primarily for defensive purposes and exorcism

    =Personal Skills=

    Magecraft: A+
    Houjutsu system of magecraft with high level of skill, it is ideologically incompatible with the Western schools of Thaumaturgy. It is a system that excels at divination, curses and the like. Possible of preforming feats impossible by modern users of this system. Capable of creating 12 Shikigami, each for a branch of the Zodiac

    Discernment of the Poor (false): C

    Due to the legends of Seimei being the one to identify the Tamamo no Mae's true nature, even though this was truly his descendent, when summoned as a heroic sprit, allows him to identify lies about ones identity if they are not considered completely human. Only applies to heroes with directly inhuman parentage.

    =Noble Phantasms=
    Casket of Divination: C
    Doman and the young Seimei once competed in a divination duel to reveal the contents of a particular box. Doman had another person put fifteen mandarin oranges into the box and "divined" that there were fifteen oranges in it. Seimei saw through the ruse, transformed the oranges into rats, and stated that fifteen rats were in the box. When the rats were revealed, Doman was shocked and defeated. Anything which is placed within this box Seimei gains complete knowledge of and is able to change the form of it to anything of similar size. Negated by high levels of magic resist or possibly by luck.

    Blood of the Kitsune: A
    Less of a Noble Phantasm and more of a trait of his body. Due to being Half-kitsune on his mother side Seimei has the ability to activate his blood to give him additional rank boosts in strength, endurance and agility at the cost of ranks in both luck and prana. Due to kitsune commonly be considered evil he is more affected by holy items and artifacts when in this form. When not active it passively give him to ability to create powerful illusions, a common ability possessed by kitsune in legend.


    Modoribashi: EX

    Modoribashi, or the 'returning bridge', is a reality marble were Seimei creates an endless bridge surrounded with black water, a manifestation of the legends in which he was connected to. While active he is able to make souls of the recently dead ‘return’ from the afterlife, however this requires a body and time to preform rites on the body.

    Note: Modoribashi is considered EX rank not for their potential in combat but in the inability to effectively rank them under normal parameters due to the unique and odd effects of them.

    =Legend=
    Abe no Seimei (安倍 晴), February 21, 921 – October 31, 1005) was an onmyōji, a leading specialist of Onmyoji during the middle of the Heian Period in Japan. In addition to his prominence in Histroy, he is a legendary figure in Japanese Folklore and has been portrayed in a number of stories and films.

    Seimei worked as onmyōji for emperors and the Heian government, making calendars and advising on the spiritually correct way to deal with issues. He prayed for the well-being of emperors and the government as well as advising on various issues. He was also an Astrologer and predicted astrological events. He enjoyed an extremely long life, free from any major illness, which contributed to the popular belief that he had Mystical powers. There are many legends of him interacting with Yokai and other supernatural factors throughout his long life.
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    Pretty good, Knick! A lot of guys doing their first profiles tend to wank or otherwise overpower the character they make but you made Seimei pretty balanced given how famous he is in Japan. His NPs are very useful if used intelligently, and his one really broken trick is highly circumstantial to prevent abuse. Good stuff!

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    Quote Originally Posted by G-Man View Post
    @ Seika - The Gift NP was too lulzy! What Servant would be dumb enough to accept the offered gold/silver?
    Depends on the Servant, their background culture, and the situation. A tyrant might have become used to be propitiated with gifts; a chivalric knight might think it's part of the courtesy that two honourable warriors should show each other; Homeric heroes would almost expect it as part of hospitality rituals, nevermind that all the connotations wealth and presentations of it would have to them.

    This is precisely why Achilles abandons the Greeks - wealth division is intimately tied up with honour, glory and respect. Agamemnon feels he will be diminished and dishonoured if has no prize from the Chryse raid, since Apollo demands that his prize (the slave girl Chryseis) must be given up. He, in turn, demands Achilles' prize, and Achilles is so insulted by this dishonour that he leaves. Wealth = glory, acknowledgement of accomplishments, etc. because it had either been taken in battle, or apportioned after battle according to a) how you'd fought and b) how much people respected you generally. (Presumably it's mostly meant to be a), but the Homeric characters are aware that at least some of b) will crop up).

    I enjoy your narrative intros/descriptions. Really adds some character to the profiles and helps me better envision the Servants. The Sokrates one still cracks me up ("I am a statue, convince me otherwise..."; "Uhhhh...")!
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    I don't think that would work. This is the Grail War where its every Servant for himself. A Servant would have to be the biggest idiot ever or insanely arrogant to trust his gift and not expect some sort of trap!

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    Was wondering which Class'd suit Marc Antony the best? Saber or Rider are the obvious ones, but Berserker's also an option too when you consider his association with Dionysus/Bacchus as well as his volatile behaviour in general, and if you were willing to stretch things (namely his affiliation with the Lupercalia festival and corresponding cult) he might even fit Caster.
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    The Jacks #1

    I just finished BioShock 2 and thought this might be fun. Please, tell me what you think.

    Servant: Caster
    True Identity: Jack Wynand (Ryan) AKA: Mr. Bubbles
    Alignment: Neutral


    Parameters-
    Strength: (C)
    Endurance: (B)
    Agility: (D)
    Magic : (B)
    Luck: (E)

    Class skills-

    Territory Creation:
    (-) He is not a proper Magus and has no need for a workshop.


    Item Construction
    : (E). While unable to create magical items he can produce a number of firearms and ammunition. Strangely enough a monkey wrench is included in this.


    Personal Skills-

    Guardian Knight: (C) In life he posed and became a form of guardian known as a Big Daddy.

    Divinity:
    (E) Though he has no divine blood he is considered a Messiah like character to many of the inhabitants of rapture.


    Clouded Mind:
    (B) When a simple turn of phrase is spoken Caster will be unable to disobey, the only compulsion stronger being his Master's Command seal. In life he was able to escape its influence but it has become an ingrained part of his legend, he cannot escape it.


    Mind Eyes (true):
    (D) Though initially controlled Caster was able to survive an environment filled with danger and quickly learned from each experience.


    King of Splicers:
    (B) An ability that allows him to fill the Caster class and gain access to a number of abilities that could be described as magecraft created by the "normal man".


    Examples:

    -Electro Bolt: " There's nothing like a fist full of lightning" Caster's first spell and as such one of his strongest. Equivalent rank (B)
    -Incinerate: the equivalent to a C ranked fired spell.
    -Winter Blast: an ice type attack that is equal to a C ranked spell.
    -Natural Camouflage: an ability to conceal one's presence for a short time. Equivalent to a D rank.
    ( Full list here & here)



    Noble Phantasms-


    Key to Rapture: (EX) A Reality Marble that is not truly his but his biological father's. His father dreamed of a place where the artist would not fear the censor, where the scientist would not be bound to petty morality. and the great would not be confided by the small. He dreamed the impossible and chose to create Rapture. A city built deep underwater where you were entitled to the sweat on your brow.

    Jack dethroned both his biological and "adoptive" fathers and earned control of the city by the end of his legend.

    Here Caster will never truly die, only be displaced and revived. Here he has access to an army of drones, splicers and manmade golems known as Big Daddies. Here he has every possible home field advantage.


    And even those with anti-fortress abilities would be hesitant to use them since they would inevitable be caught in a torrent of ocean water and be trapped so far underwater that they can barely even see the Sun light.


    Ideal killer: (A+, single use) The most unassuming Noble Phantasm in existence. It takes the form of a simple 9Iron but it's effect is deadly. With that 9Iron Caster killed his own father, a man with ideals so strong he built a city underwater.

    With this simple tool he can kill a "Man of ideals" with a few simple swings of the club. A very deadly weapon to most Heroic Spirits.
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    EX-ranked Noble Phantasms are my favorite thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by G-Man View Post
    I don't think that would work. This is the Grail War where its every Servant for himself. A Servant would have to be the biggest idiot ever or insanely arrogant to trust his gift and not expect some sort of trap!
    Just like all the Servants would be far too paranoid to ever give out their names, and thus all their possible weaknesses ... oh, wait, that happens at least half a dozen times over F/Z and F/SN. They're heroes, knights, kings. With the obvious exception of the Assassins, pride and glory and chivalry play just as big a part in their thought processes as actually winning any kind of fight. Setting all that aside, Perikles is not without persuasive capabilities ...
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    So...After lurking this thread and scrolling through all the servants for 3-4 days...Decided to make a servant! Didn't know what class to put him...So I probably did this wrong.
    ____________

    Name: Ryu

    Class: (Fake) Assassin (Able to be in Berserker or Archer class)

    Appearance:
    Too big, put it in spoiler.


    Bio: As a very young child, Ryu was orphaned and left with no memories about his parents, and whether they were still alive. He was found and adopted by a man named Gouken who raised Ryu in his secluded dojo and trained Ryu in the ways of his martial arts. Shortly afterwards, Gouken would later train his best friend's spoiled son, Ken Masters. Ken served not only as a sparring partner, but also gave Ryu a friend in the form of a boy his own age. Ryu looked up to Gouken as a father figure, and regards Ken as his best friend and surrogate brother, a relationship which remains to this day. When Ryu was 23 years old,[citation needed] Gouken believed that Ryu was ready to travel the world in order to test and hone his martial skills against the best fighters from around the world.

    Stats:
    Strength: E+
    Endurance: C
    Agility: E+
    Magic: E-
    Luck: B (Ok, I think I'm fanwanking it but he basically won every fighting tournaments in his endings and he's still looking for a "better" fighter)
    NP: ??? (He's a karateman who uses fist and ki manipulation. Of course his NP is a mystery.)

    Class Skills:

    Presence Concealment: C - At this rank, only his presence as a servant is hidden. Despite that, he can easily be sense through Masters.

    Personal Skills:

    Eye of the Mind (False): B - Capable of calm analysis of battle conditions even when in danger and deduce an appropriate course of action after considering all possibilities to escape from a predicament. So long there is even a 1% chance of a comeback, this ability greatly improves the chances of winning.

    Bravery: A - Being a fighter, he will accept any challenge. A slight increase in Melee damage.

    Japanese Martial Arts: A+++ Being a street fighter and winning many tournaments, he is a master at Close-Combat, Including skills such as the Hadoken and Shoryuken.


    Noble Phantasm:

    Satsui No Hado ~ Surge of Murderous Intent: B -

    In order for Ryu to tap into this power, Ryu must be so consumed with the desire to win or have such an intense rage, that they he is willing to kill. His eyes glow red, his hair spikes up with red tint, and his Gi turns black.

    At the cost of his compassion and kindness, he turns very demonic, but it doesn't rob him of his sanity nor intelligence. He simply wants to win, even if it means killing.

    When this is activated, his Strength and Agility triples, along with a boost in Magic, at the cost of lowering his endurance. He experience a tremendous boost in power and speed, and his attacks are now powered by Satsui no Hadou, increasing them all by a rank. He gains the ability to use Shun Goku Satsu while in Satsui no Hado mode. As this greatly powers him up, it takes quiet a lot of mana to keep him in this form. The master can also use a command spell to order Ryu into Satsui no Hado mode, or to leave this form.

    Shun Goku Satsu ~ Instant Hell Murder: A -

    When performed, Ryu glides towards the opponent and grabs them. The Shun Goku Satsu is the channeling of these sixteen hells to the opponent's soul through the user's soul, which in gameplay is displayed as fifteen hit sparks and, provided that the opponent's health is low enough, he/she will die in the final hell which is displayed as fire and the "ten" kanji symbol in some games. Due to the fact that sixteen hells are being channelled through the user to destroy the opponent's soul, the user is put at immense risk - if the user fails to maintain a Zen state of mind throughout the course of the technique, it will backfire and turn the punishment of the sixteen hells on the user.

    This does heavy damage to any servant, enough for them to take a few days in order to heal or even defeat them.

    But since he needs immense concentration, if he messes up once, then the attack will backfire and damage him as well.

    Still, this is a move which is capable of even defeating strong servants, unless they move out of range or can defend against the attack, which is heightened with a auto-resurrect ability, "Emptying" the soul in time before it consumes the opponent, or keeping part of a life force and part of a soul in a object.

    Note:
    - When summoned as a Berserker class, Satsui no Hadou NP is always active and he gains C ranked Mad Enhancement, as well as B ranked Monstrous Strength. while only his Martial Art skills is kept, The other two skills are unusable.

    But if he uses Monstrous Strength too long, there is the chance that he might turn on his master or be too insane to handle...

    - Here are his status as a berserker:

    Strength: D+ (C+) [D++] [(C++)]
    Endurance: D
    Agility: D+ [D++]
    Magic: E- [E+]
    Luck: B
    NP: A
    () = Monstrous Strength
    [] = Satsui no Hadou
    [()] = Both Activated

    - (+) Indicates a temporarily boost in power. The base stats in STR is D+, with B Rank Mad enhancement in effect. It is about x40 stronger then a human. When Satsui no Hado is active, which temporarily boost his STR and AGI, instead it require a extra plus, which means he is twice the power before. Assuming having D ranked STR is 20, he is at default 40, which is about x40 stronger then a average human. Therefore, his power is temporarily boasted to D++, which is x60 stronger then a average human. With Satsui no Hado always active, this is always in effect.

    -When Monstrous Strength is active, his D+ STR turns into a C+, resulting in a full rank up, which turns his power into x60 stronger then a human being, about the same power when his Satusui no Hado is in effect with it boosts and all by itself.

    -With BOTH Satsui no Hado and Monstrous Strength, he has C++ STR, which is about x90 stronger then a human being. The Satsui no Hado is always in effect, but with Monstrous Strength, he can even surpass servants with C-A ranked STR, not including any modifier/boosts.

    -The same applies to both Magic and Agility, both gaining a plus for both, being E+ and D++, thus being x20 stronger then a human being and x60 stronger then a human being, respectively, with Satsui no Hado in effect.
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    Perhaps you should instead list his fighting techniques under his Personal Skill (Chinese Martial Arts) instead. If he is (Fake) Assassin, he won't have a Noble Phantasm anyway, so it would make much more sense.

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    Yeah, I agree with Junky here. His individual techniques can be theoretically learned by anyone (as Sakura, who basically taught herself, and even Dan, whose training was never finished before he got kicked out by their master, demonstrate), and wouldn't qualify as NPs (because they are not unique parts of his legend). That's like listing every individual spell a Caster knows as an NP, which is not the case. They would be listed under his Chinese Martial Arts Personal Skill, though that name in of itself is odd; why is it listed as Chinese Martial Arts when he learned his style from a Japense man, Goutetsu? The name of the Skill should be changed to Japanese Martial Arts.

    If anything, he should have Satsui no Hadou as an NP (outside of crossovers and non-canon works its unique to him and Akuma/Gouki IIRC). It works like Mad Enhancement to the point of even physically changing his appearance and making it more monstrous, only it doesn't rob him of his sanity or ability to reason, it just makes him focused on nothing but victory, even at the expense of his opponents' lives (which works out just fine in a Grail War). Alternatively it could be a Personal Skill that functions like Monstrous Strength or Mad Enhancement. A Ryu whose given in to the Satsui no Hadou might be able to take one or two lives from Heracles, though he'd still get killed eventually. He might do better if he's granted his Marvel vs Capcom feats, but he still falls short of most Servants. It doesn't help that Assassins are meant to target the Masters and he'd consider winning in such a manner to be dishonorable, especially if he was consumed by the Satsui no Hadou.

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    Quote Originally Posted by G-Man View Post
    Yeah, I agree with Junky here. His individual techniques can be theoretically learned by anyone (as Sakura, who basically taught herself, and even Dan, whose training was never finished before he got kicked out by their master, demonstrate), and wouldn't qualify as NPs (because they are not unique parts of his legend). That's like listing every individual spell a Caster knows as an NP, which is not the case. They would be listed under his Chinese Martial Arts Personal Skill, though that name in of itself is odd; why is it listed as Chinese Martial Arts when he learned his style from a Japense man, Goutetsu? The name of the Skill should be changed to Japanese Martial Arts.

    If anything, he should have Satsui no Hadou as an NP (outside of crossovers and non-canon works its unique to him and Akuma/Gouki IIRC). It works like Mad Enhancement to the point of even physically changing his appearance and making it more monstrous, only it doesn't rob him of his sanity or ability to reason, it just makes him focused on nothing but victory, even at the expense of his opponents' lives (which works out just fine in a Grail War). Alternatively it could be a Personal Skill that functions like Monstrous Strength or Mad Enhancement. A Ryu whose given in to the Satsui no Hadou might be able to take one or two lives from Heracles, though he'd still get killed eventually. He might do better if he's granted his Marvel vs Capcom feats, but he still falls short of most Servants. It doesn't help that Assassins are meant to target the Masters and he'd consider winning in such a manner to be dishonorable, especially if he was consumed by the Satsui no Hadou.
    Hm...Your right. I put him under (Fake) Assassin because I don't know any other class that would fit him. The only classes I think he would fit is Archer(Doesn't his Hadoken counts as strong projectiles?), Berserker(Evil Ryu anyone?), and some fake class, so I took the Farmer's route.. Or I could make up a class called "Martial Artist". But that is a interesting idea... Perhaps make him able to be in berserker class? Canonically, he only succumbs to the Satsui no Hadou once, and resists it, but Evil Ryu is a "What if" version of Ryu, sucumbbing to Satsui no Hadou and only cares about fighting and winning. Thanks for pointing out my flaws, I change it right away.
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    Everyone needs to adopt my "Martial Artist = Throwing Punches = Archer" perspective, it will make things easier for you I promise!

    Styles that focus on grappling are SOL, though, sorry Gracie brothers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mcjon01 View Post
    Styles that focus on grappling are SOL
    So, Lancer class?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shirou_EMIYA View Post
    Hm...Your right. I put him under (Fake) Assassin because I don't know any other class that would fit him. The only classes I think he would fit is Archer(Doesn't his Hadoken counts as strong projectiles?), Berserker(Evil Ryu anyone?), and some fake class, so I took the Farmer's route.. Or I could make up a class called "Martial Artist". But that is a interesting idea... Perhaps make him able to be in berserker class? Canonically, he only succumbs to the Satsui no Hadou once, and resists it, but Evil Ryu is a "What if" version of Ryu, sucumbbing to Satsui no Hadou and only cares about fighting and winning. Thanks for pointing out my flaws, I change it right away.
    A bit better, but he's way too overpowered as a Berserker. Rank C Mad Enhancement should not take someone from E+ Rank STR to A+ (with the potential for A++), even if it gets stacked with the a high ranked Monstrous Strength Personal Skill and Satusi no Hadou. You made a mistake that I myself and many other fans make in misunderstanding how the Ranks and "+" modifiers work. The Ranks actually represent numbers that are a Servant's base-level in that category, with Rank E being roughly 10 times the ability of a normal human (Rank D = 20, C = 30, B = 40, and A = 50); pluses are multiplicative modifiers that activate under certain conditions (ie - if you have E+ STR, your base strength is 10, but the plus means that at times your strength can double and temporarily become 20; E++ means that under certain conditions your STR can triple and become 30). A++ means his STR Rank is now greater than Berserker Heracle's (Heracle's STR, even as a Berserker, is A+). Noble Phantasms operate under a slightly different scale. A Rank C NP is equal in power to a regular attack made with Rank A STR.

    Also, Rank C Mad Enhancement grants a Rank up to all stats save LCK and MGC, so Berserker Ryu's END should still be at least Rank D. Monstrous Strength grants only a single Rank up boost to STR, and the only thing the Rank of one's Monstrous Strength determines is how long the boost lasts (re - it always gives a boost of one Rank and one Rank alone, but if your Rank in this skill is say, B instead of D, then your boost will last longer). So, assuming Berserker Ryu's Monstrous Strength can only be activated for a short while lest he turn on the Master, his Rank in Monstrous Strength must be low (also Monstrous Strength doesn't affect sanity as far as we know), and at best his base is Rank C+ STR, then considering his Satsui no Hadou is supposed to triple his STR and AGI, that means his STR becomes C++ at best if Monstrous Strength is also active, not A+. Most of the time he will be at Rank D++ STR and AGI, which is still much better than it looks (3 times Rank D STR and AGI is actually greater than Rank B STR and AGI).

    So his stats as a Berserker should look like this:

    Strength: D+ (C+) [D++] [(C++)]
    Endurance: D
    Agility: D+ [D++]
    Magic: E- [E+] -Cuz' no way Satsui no Hadou doesn't boost his ki, and for a Servant his Prana counts as his ki.
    Luck: B
    NP: A (his best skill is Rank A, hence this should be what his NP stat is ranked at)
    () = Monstrous Strength
    [] = Satsui no Hadou
    [()] = Both Activated

    His stats still look like garbage at first glance, but if Satsui no Hadou is always active, that means those "+" modifiers are always active, and throw in Monstrous Strength and his stats can fluctuate wildly, throwing off his opponents big time. He's actually quite beastly once Monstrous Strength activates. Assuming his Rank D STR is the bare minimum of 20 times a normal human's strength, and since Satsui no Hadou is always active, that means his STR is always D++; 3 x 20 or 60 times the strength of a normal human. Add in the Rank up from Monstrous Strength and his STR is now at C++; 3 x 30 or 90 times the strength of a normal human (Saber, with Shirou as her Master, has Rank B+ STR, or 80 times that of a normal human at best), and he still retains all of his martial arts skills! Considering Akuma/Gouki can sink a damn island and punch through a nuclear sub with a Shoryuken launched from the bottom of the sea, this actually isn't too OP for Berserker Ryu!

    Edit: Wow, I wasted way too much time actually analyzing all of that considering its past midnight where I am... I seriously need a hobby...
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    Quote Originally Posted by G-Man View Post
    A bit better, but he's way too overpowered as a Berserker. Rank C Mad Enhancement should not take someone from E+ Rank STR to A+ (with the potential for A++), even if it gets stacked with the a high ranked Monstrous Strength Personal Skill and Satusi no Hadou. You made a mistake that I myself and many other fans make in misunderstanding how the Ranks and "+" modifiers work. The Ranks actually represent numbers that are a Servant's base-level in that category, with Rank E being roughly 10 times the ability of a normal human (Rank D = 20, C = 30, B = 40, and A = 50); pluses are multiplicative modifiers that activate under certain conditions (ie - if you have E+ STR, your base strength is 10, but the plus means that at times your strength can double and temporarily become 20; E++ means that under certain conditions your STR can triple and become 30). A++ means his STR Rank is now greater than Berserker Heracle's (Heracle's STR, even as a Berserker, is A+). Noble Phantasms operate under a slightly different scale. A Rank C NP is equal in power to a regular attack made with Rank A STR.

    Also, Rank C Mad Enhancement grants a Rank up to all stats save LCK and MGC, so Berserker Ryu's END should still be at least Rank D. Monstrous Strength grants only a single Rank up boost to STR, and the only thing the Rank of one's Monstrous Strength determines is how long the boost lasts (re - it always gives a boost of one Rank and one Rank alone, but if your Rank in this skill is say, B instead of D, then your boost will last longer). So, assuming Berserker Ryu's Monstrous Strength can only be activated for a short while lest he turn on the Master, his Rank in Monstrous Strength must be low (also Monstrous Strength doesn't affect sanity as far as we know), and at best his base is Rank C+ STR, then considering his Satsui no Hadou is supposed to triple his STR and AGI, that means his STR becomes C++ at best if Monstrous Strength is also active, not A+. Most of the time he will be at Rank D++ STR and AGI, which is still much better than it looks (3 times Rank D STR and AGI is actually greater than Rank B STR and AGI).

    So his stats as a Berserker should look like this:

    Strength: D+ (C+) [D++] [(C++)]
    Endurance: D
    Agility: D+ [D++]
    Magic: E- [E+] -Cuz' no way Satsui no Hadou doesn't boost his ki, and for a Servant his Prana counts as his ki.
    Luck: B
    NP: A (his best skill is Rank A, hence this should be what his NP stat is ranked at)
    () = Monstrous Strength
    [] = Satsui no Hadou
    [()] = Both Activated

    His stats still look like garbage at first glance, but if Satsui no Hadou is always active, that means those "+" modifiers are always active, and throw in Monstrous Strength and his stats can fluctuate wildly, throwing off his opponents big time. He's actually quite beastly once Monstrous Strength activates. Assuming his Rank D STR is the bare minimum of 20 times a normal human's strength, and since Satsui no Hadou is always active, that means his STR is always D++; 3 x 20 or 60 times the strength of a normal human. Add in the Rank up from Monstrous Strength and his STR is now at C++; 3 x 30 or 90 times the strength of a normal human (Saber, with Shirou as her Master, has Rank B+ STR, or 80 times that of a normal human at best), and he still retains all of his martial arts skills! Considering Akuma/Gouki can sink a damn island and punch through a nuclear sub with a Shoryuken launched from the bottom of the sea, this actually isn't too OP for Berserker Ryu!

    Edit: Wow, I wasted way too much time actually analyzing all of that considering its past midnight where I am... I seriously need a hobby...
    I just assumed with "Temporarily boost in power", that basically means a full ranked up(D>C) instead of adding a plus(D>D+).
    I seriously made up the servant sheet 1 AM in the morning with 2 wikis as the source...I really shouldn't create servants so early in the morning and read the actual Parameters instead of just making it a full rank up. At least I finally understand how does boost in powers work now, so I won't make that much mistakes next time I create a servant...
    And about Shun Goku Satsu, I imagine this will happen if Evil Ryu meets Hercules...

    Ryu: *grabs Hercules somehow*SHUN GOKU SATSU!*kills Hercules*
    Hercules: *revives*LOLNOPE!*brings down fist and crushes Ryu*

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    Oh, agreed. Shun Goku Satsu, hell, even the Shin Shun Goku Satsu, takes just one life, just as it did with Gill, and Herc revives and splats Ryu. Its not something to be ashamed of. Herc is ridiculously broken and it takes a monster even more broken than him like Gilgamesh or Dark Sakura to bring him down. Akuma/Gouki on the other hand...

    Gouki - My fists bleed death! *punches Herc with his island-sinking strike, hard enough to create an earthquake that can be felt all over Fuyuki*
    Herc - BLAAARRGGHH!!! MY INNARDS!!! *loses at least 10 lives* *revives*
    Gouki - First my worthless brother, then that miserable coward Bison, then the old man assassin, then that weird red and blue godling, and now yet another godling... I am getting sick and tired of people who don't stay dead when I kill them!

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    Sakura isn't a monster.

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    What about Oni Akuma? Akuma at full strength, with 7 (not dragon) balls around who aura burns down a ENTIRE forest and punching the inside of a volcano causes it to ERUPT.
    Hm...Now I feel like making Akuma/Oni now...EX+++++ Satsui no Hadou, anyone?

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    Name: Cao Cao

    Class: Rider

    Alignment: Lawful/Chaotic Good/Evil

    Stats:

    Strength D
    Endurance B
    Agility B
    Magic D
    Luck C-A

    Class Skills

    Riding B

    Magic Resistance B


    Personal Skills

    Charisma A

    Disengage C

    Eye Of The Mind True C

    Military Tactics B

    Pioneer Of The Stars A

    Bravery A

    Headache Suffer A

    Eyes Of The People: A unique skill for people such as Cao Cao, while seen as evil by many, he can also be seen as a great hero, a youthful powerful general or a cunning old man, because of this his personal skills are randomised and only 3 of them are active at once, and then are randomised again every 3 hours.


    Noble Phantasms:

    Swords Of Heaven and Light: E Rank
    Swords in fiction that Cao Cao owned that were said to cut through armour as if it was mere mud, a very common and simple concept and power bestowed upon legendary Chinese Swords.


    Speak Of Him And He Shall Appear: A Rank

    Due to his lifestyle and shockingly powerful and swift mobilization of armies he was quickly known to inspire troops with promises, making them fight and endure onwards, while evading assassins and unraveling plots of rebellion.

    As a result Cao Cao has the ability to inspire allies and actually makes their Endurance rank up, if the person does not have a Servant level Endurance, they gain a E Rank Endurance, and furthermore should anyone say Cao Cao's name he would instantly appear near the person who utters it, in almost no time at all.


    Steeds For A Hero: Rank B

    Cao Cao owned many powerful and expensive horses with myths attached to their talents and Cao Cao having miraculous retreats which may have doomed any other man.
    A horse summoned by Cao Cao will actually have the ability to Prana Burst things such as "fire" and "shadow" while not harming his allies or himself, the horses cannot perish unless they run out of energy or Cao Cao himself dies.


    Sword Of The Seven Stars, Twist of Fate: Rank EX

    The fiction of a legendary blade that would not fail to slay its foe should it land upon the flesh of its enemy, embodied into a powerful magical skill due to being strongly identified with Cao Cao.
    Using this Noble Phantasm, Cao Cao changes any and all conditions of the battle into, "50/50 Chance Of Victory Or Death, when both enemies launch their next attack, regardless of aim or power."

    However if Cao Cao has Pioneers Of The Stars, Bravery and Eye Of The Mind True active, then the chances become 50 Victory, 20 Death and 30 to Escape.
    This Noble Phantasm however is transferred to the "Victor" , should the user fail to kill the other, the other person gains this noble phantasm until they fail to use it, however it can only be initiated by a person by their choice once during the war for each person.
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