Not with his massively boosted stats from a 'defender of the state' type boost, that would his agility to at least rank A in terms of values and his strength even higher (oh god why does he already have A+ strength to begin with, that's Berserker Herk level man).
He can probably keep them in the zone just by turning them into a soccer ball (or football ball depending on where you live).
Originally Posted by Arashi_Leonhart
Thats actually exactly what you gave him. The sad part is when the author doesn't actually understand what they gave their own servant.
Either massively reduce the ranks(so they actually give what you seemingly intended to give him) or you gave him 2 weapons as good/better than Excalibur and runes that make him Zelretch tier.
No one is actually shitting on your fun. You seemingly are shitting on your own fun. You could've just let it go when Knick responded but now you are arguing canon.
Last edited by BlackField; June 6th, 2013 at 11:11 PM.
Berserk herk is A++ by the way, A+ is his base, it´s the whole "wasnt even my final form" thing Illya came with in the last minute.
I guess it was a mistake with the Agility stat i gave him. I was trying to make him somewhat of a stationary hero who used his Runestones and the Sword of Holger as his defensive placements. Im gonna go edit it down to a C.
I'm just gonna post this again Christemo, cause its probably one of the only reasons me and BlackField are even arguing with you in any way (I'm not really arguing, or at least trying not to, just pointing out shit)
If your not gonna put any real effort into a servant sheet it kind of spits on all the others who have. After all you have probably read some of theirs, so you should not make them read a really poorly made one, its disrespectful.
Last edited by Knick; June 6th, 2013 at 11:15 PM.
Not gonna mention it again past this: He has one weapon. One. the other is more of a totem pole.
Nah, his stats didn't change in the status screen when Illya unleashed him. Its more that the gold bits on his bars(they are the bit that indicate ME) weren't activated rather than him going from A++ to A+++(which probably wouldn't happen anyway, it'd probably stay A++ just be a higher A++).
I actually slightly disagree with Knick, I don't necessarily think your intention was to offend people who had put effort into it and after you clarified that, it was no longer an issue per se. It was once you started talking about how he wasn't exceedingly overwanked(when he was) and how he was fineish as he was, that I wanted to clarify the problems from a pure canon perspective.
There are clearly problems with your understanding of canon but then again the Nasuverse is a complicated thing that not even after countless arguments and supplementary materials, are we closer to any actual definitive answer on how things work, so no one can actually blame you.
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Its a frigging object that is designed to kill/harm people, thats like the definition of a weapon. And it doesn't even matter, its still OP as all fuck.
You can call a turd a rose, but that's not enough to make me stick my nose in it.
Its not that im not trying, it´s that i wrote the sheet like 3 hours ago and i havent slept in about 20 hours so i come as a complete airhead. Insomnia is not fun.
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looked back on it and nerfed it. There we go, crisis solved.
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Not sure whether not i wanna call that the worst or best comparison ever.
Technically it harms non-danish people, so its a racist weapon if you want to be more specific.
Well we´re all white up here so it´s more nationalistic than racistTechnically it harms non-danish people, so its a racist weapon if you want to be more specific.
Well, overall the changes are good, he is much more balanced.
Still feel that A-rank strength is pushing it, the only non-berserker known to have that rank is Saber, and she gets it through prana burst.
Also where does the EX rank endurance come from?
A-rank strength caters to the Viking stereotype.
As i commented earlier, the EX endurance comes from the fact that most vikings ate various psychoactives along with their food, particularly mushrooms, before major battles. You may know this term as "Berserkergang", and most of those psychoactives made them feel no pain and go into an unstoppable rage. Well if we insert a bit of Nasuverse into that, you have just as a plausible reason as "This gladiator dude likes making hard choices".
Also on the A-rank strength thing, Karna has effective Strength A due to B-rank strength, his technique and the Brahmastra and Gilgamesh has A-rank strength when Shinji is his master.
Last edited by Christemo; June 6th, 2013 at 11:38 PM.
That would probably just mean he has a high rank in battle continuation as a skill. Endurance is how much damage one can take (so its like a pseudo health meter), not if you can keep going on after being hurt. Spartacus literally converts damage into power because of his NP, so its takes a stupidly high amount of damage to actually kill him because of it, hence the EX rank.
Lolwhat?
At the other part, we already have a servant who used drugs to stop himself from feeling pain and he had C rank Endurance(5th war Hassan in case you are wondering). But even then the Endurance stat doesn't work the way you seem to think it does, its more like a HP bar, what you described sounds more like Battle Continuation(as in continue fighting even after you are hurt kind of deal).
It didnt really take much to kill him though. He got hit a couple of times by Lancer and then impaled with a couple of spears from Kazikli Bei, and then those Golems came and gave him a hug and that was the end of it.
It´s the same principle here. You call it how much damage one can take. Those shrooms make him able to surpass that limit. I was actually thinking of adding the Berserkergang skill to him, where his Endurance goes from A to EX when he goes into combat, but in return he suffers from a low-level Mad Enhancement due to the psychoactives.
Except that his stat screen says B.
In fact I don't recall his stats changing at all when he was with Shinji. They probably didn't even have a contract, it was just Shinji thinking he was the boss and Gilgamesh finding him too hilarious to point out otherwise.
Gilgamesh is like the one person that likes Shinji. He likes him so much that he let Shinji live after he patted his shoulder!
Last edited by Siriel; June 7th, 2013 at 12:26 AM.
Please don't reveal things like that. I'm trying to remain unspoiled for Apocrypha.
also I'll review your servant after I wake up.
With this surge of nationalism recently, I've decided I must make a Louis Riel Servant. He will dual-wield gatling guns and summon red rivers of blood while entreating you to a non-discriminatory schooling system.
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How possible is an overcount servant?
That's only if we assume that Karna's stats shown are effected by Uncrowned Arms Mastery. I don't believe it's been said one way or another, but I think that his B Rank Strength is his normal stat, and others will see it as C Rank Strength. And Gilgamesh never has A Rank Strength under any Master. Unless you can say where you found Gil's stats while under Shinji? Because I've never seen them.
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