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    Quote Originally Posted by RoydGolden View Post
    How's that for a definition?
    not good because it says what it does, not why people get it and others don't.
    also it's from the tmwikia.
    Last edited by You; November 2nd, 2015 at 01:55 AM.
    Quote Originally Posted by FSF 5, Chapter 14: Gold and Lions I
    Dumas flashed a fearless grin at Flat and Jack as he rattled off odd turns of phrase.
    "And most importantly, it's me who'll be doing the cooking."
    Though abandoned, forgotten, and scorned as out-of-date dolls, they continue to carry out their mission, unchanged from the time they were designed.
    Machines do not lose their worth when a newer model appears.
    Their worth (life) ends when humans can no longer bear that purity.


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    I was mostly just being snarky. Yeah, Type-Moon wiki isn't much help here LOL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RoydGolden View Post
    Greater objectively but not necessarily greater in comparison to all his other feats. As you said, Cu committed a whole bunch of legendary one-man-army type feats (it's pretty what he did, and that holds true for a lot of other famous heroes as well) whereas Tell's whole legend was basically him shooting the apple (and subsequent assassination of Gessler). What counts as a Personal Skill or even Noble Phantasm for one Heroic Spirit might not for another, depending on how much it stood out in the context of their other feats. Soloing an army is hardly unusual for an epic hero, while the appleshot is more unusual even if it's objectively less impressive.
    If that was the case everyone would have EX-ranked skills or NPs because every hero has something in which they excel more than in everything else.

    Quote Originally Posted by RoydGolden View Post
    Think of it as the same way Gilgamesh says that humans aren't as "valuable" in the modern era as they were in ancient times, because there's so many of them that there worth is more distributed amongst the whole.
    That's not what Gilgamesh means when he says that though.
    Ragnarok, come day of wrath
    That fallen souls might bear our plea.
    To hasten the Divine's return.
    O piteous Wanderer.

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    also the tmwikia is wrong about bravery.
    And they can't even blame Aksys this time.
    Quote Originally Posted by FSF 5, Chapter 14: Gold and Lions I
    Dumas flashed a fearless grin at Flat and Jack as he rattled off odd turns of phrase.
    "And most importantly, it's me who'll be doing the cooking."
    Though abandoned, forgotten, and scorned as out-of-date dolls, they continue to carry out their mission, unchanged from the time they were designed.
    Machines do not lose their worth when a newer model appears.
    Their worth (life) ends when humans can no longer bear that purity.


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    Quote Originally Posted by You View Post
    also the tmwikia is wrong about bravery.
    why

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    Quote Originally Posted by You View Post
    also the tmwikia is wrong about bravery.
    And they can't even blame Aksys this time.
    sasuga tm wiki
    Quote Originally Posted by Arashi_Leonhart View Post
    canon finish apo vol 3

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaItalianFish View Post
    why
    Bravery (勇猛, Yūmō?, localized as Fortitude) is the ability to negate mental interference such as pressure, confusion and fascination. Not usable under the effects of Mad Enhancement.
    Because Melee damage is increased for B rank as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aksys
    Fortitude [B]
    Gives one the ability to negate any type of mental interference. It also improves the damage done by melee attack and increases one's bravery. However, as Lu Bu was summoned as Berserker, the importance of bravery has been made most.
    勇猛[B]:
    威圧・混乱・幻惑といった精神干渉を無効化する能力。
    また、格闘ダメージを向上させる効果もある
    ただし、現在はバーサーカー化しているため、勇猛さは意味をなさない。
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    I have no idea where aksys got "improves one's bravery" though
    like wtf aksys stop doing coke.
    Quote Originally Posted by FSF 5, Chapter 14: Gold and Lions I
    Dumas flashed a fearless grin at Flat and Jack as he rattled off odd turns of phrase.
    "And most importantly, it's me who'll be doing the cooking."
    Though abandoned, forgotten, and scorned as out-of-date dolls, they continue to carry out their mission, unchanged from the time they were designed.
    Machines do not lose their worth when a newer model appears.
    Their worth (life) ends when humans can no longer bear that purity.


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    Bravery is a unique skill granted to Berserkers for the sole purpose of being sealed by Maddening.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mcjon01 View Post
    Bravery is a unique skill granted to Berserkers for the sole purpose of being sealed by Maddening.
    It's just a set up for the GO finale, where Lu Bu and Herakles have their ME removed and they punch Angra Mainyu Solomon into the sun.
    Ragnarok, come day of wrath
    That fallen souls might bear our plea.
    To hasten the Divine's return.
    O piteous Wanderer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mcjon01 View Post
    Bravery is a unique skill granted to Berserkers for the sole purpose of being sealed by Maddening.
    then why doesn't Cu have it?
    Quote Originally Posted by FSF 5, Chapter 14: Gold and Lions I
    Dumas flashed a fearless grin at Flat and Jack as he rattled off odd turns of phrase.
    "And most importantly, it's me who'll be doing the cooking."
    Though abandoned, forgotten, and scorned as out-of-date dolls, they continue to carry out their mission, unchanged from the time they were designed.
    Machines do not lose their worth when a newer model appears.
    Their worth (life) ends when humans can no longer bear that purity.


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    Quote Originally Posted by You View Post
    then why doesn't Cu have it?
    Because he was a Lancer, obviously.
    Ragnarok, come day of wrath
    That fallen souls might bear our plea.
    To hasten the Divine's return.
    O piteous Wanderer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Siriel View Post
    Because he was a Lancer, obviously.
    Then how come Achilles has it?
    Quote Originally Posted by FSF 5, Chapter 14: Gold and Lions I
    Dumas flashed a fearless grin at Flat and Jack as he rattled off odd turns of phrase.
    "And most importantly, it's me who'll be doing the cooking."
    Though abandoned, forgotten, and scorned as out-of-date dolls, they continue to carry out their mission, unchanged from the time they were designed.
    Machines do not lose their worth when a newer model appears.
    Their worth (life) ends when humans can no longer bear that purity.


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    Quote Originally Posted by You View Post
    Then how come Achilles has it?
    Higashide is a wildcard that doesn't play by the rules.
    Ragnarok, come day of wrath
    That fallen souls might bear our plea.
    To hasten the Divine's return.
    O piteous Wanderer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by You View Post
    Then how come Achilles has it?
    i don't even think he should to be honest.

    he isn't even brave, just a bit crazy to fight a good fight

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    Quote Originally Posted by Siriel View Post
    Higashide is a wildcard that doesn't play by the rules.
    thank god we have people like Sakurai then who refuse to give Cu Bravery.
    Quote Originally Posted by FSF 5, Chapter 14: Gold and Lions I
    Dumas flashed a fearless grin at Flat and Jack as he rattled off odd turns of phrase.
    "And most importantly, it's me who'll be doing the cooking."
    Though abandoned, forgotten, and scorned as out-of-date dolls, they continue to carry out their mission, unchanged from the time they were designed.
    Machines do not lose their worth when a newer model appears.
    Their worth (life) ends when humans can no longer bear that purity.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Siriel View Post
    If that was the case everyone would have EX-ranked skills or NPs because every hero has something in which they excel more than in everything else..
    How does that follow? Excelling at something more than anything else ≠ having something literally unquantifiable/absurdly powerful and I never said as such.


    Quote Originally Posted by Siriel View Post
    That's not what Gilgamesh means when he says that though.
    Isn't it though?
    Last edited by RoydGolden; November 2nd, 2015 at 02:14 AM.

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    Huh all this arguement about Bravery. How amusing.

    I immediately noticed the five personal skills and raised my eye, especially at their ranks, but I've given up on trying to convince people that weaker heroes should have weaker stats and skill ranks.

    On the other hand I actually think that the three NPs are pretty cool, conceptually. I'm not totally against the Three Tells NP because I actually like it but it does feel a bit unnecessary.

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    Yeah, I have noticed I tend to add more Personal Skills to my sheets then other people in this thread. I just can't resist adding in everything that seems fitting rather then just narrowing it to two or three. I wasn't too sure about his Noble Phantasms actually, so I'm glad you think they're "pretty cool".

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    Huh..some of the servants created make Gilgamesh look like a scrub.Read a few of them.Probably going to read the rest later on at my own leisure to give any valid inputs.

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    You talking to me? I wouldn't say any of my Servants are too overpowered (much less "making Gilgamesh look like a scrub") except for maybe Odin and Adam, both of which very much deserve their level of power (Odin is the head norse god, Adam is literally the original human in a verse where age=power).

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