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**I3uster** · April 11th, 2011, 01:58 PM

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**eddyak** · April 11th, 2011, 02:05 PM

They are ideal for killing Masters, Noble Phantasms and magecraft, but should he attempt to kill a Servant the strain will cause him to die and disappear instantly.

Lolololololol

**I3uster** · April 11th, 2011, 02:08 PM

Originally Posted by eddyak

Lolololololol

Don't start it, please, don't.

**eddyak** · April 11th, 2011, 02:10 PM

No, it's just...

You got it completely the wrong way around.

**I3uster** · April 11th, 2011, 02:12 PM

Originally Posted by eddyak

No, it's just...

You got it completely the wrong way around.

The suicide-prana bomb thing or what?

**Mcjon01** · April 11th, 2011, 02:12 PM

I don't see why sharing his life when he was alive would affect his endurance as a heroic spirit. I also don't see why trying to kill Servants would be hard for a (fake) Assassin Shiki, since the strain comes from trying to understand things too far from the normal human condition. Basically, rewiring your brain to think like a rock so you can understand it's death is a stupid idea. As a Servant himself, though, understanding the death of other servants should come as naturally as killing humans.

And I thought Mystic Eyes aren't counted as Noble Phantasms for some reason.

**Tangerang** · April 11th, 2011, 02:13 PM

hahaha.

Why is it that every time one of these create-a-servant thread pops up, there's always going to be a Shiki Tohno on the first page, and he's always going to be ridiculously fanwanked?

**I3uster** · April 11th, 2011, 02:13 PM

The problem here being is that he would be extremely imbalanced if he could do that.
I mean with flashstepping and Servant-insta-kill it would be kind of sick.

**terraablaze** · April 11th, 2011, 02:13 PM

Originally Posted by I3uster

Agility: A (Flash sheath will only get stronger when he becomes a heroic spirit)

Originally Posted by I3uster

Flash sheath will only get stronger when he becomes a heroic spirit

Originally Posted by I3uster

get stronger when he becomes a heroic spirit

What is this? I can't even guess. TOBIAS! GRANT ME STRENGTH!

Also lol at you equating Agility with speed.

**I3uster** · April 11th, 2011, 02:15 PM

I knew I should have started out with someone else, this reaction was kind of expected in hindsight.

**Tangerang** · April 11th, 2011, 02:19 PM

Originally Posted by terraablaze

What is this? I can't even guess. TOBIAS! GRANT ME STRENGTH!

Also lol at you equating Agility with speed.

On the other hand, at least it's better than that one guy who kept insisting that Shiki would have Ex ranked Agi as a Servant.

**Mcjon01** · April 11th, 2011, 02:20 PM

Originally Posted by I3uster

I knew I should have started out with someone else, this reaction was kind of expected in hindsight.

このスレはもう死んでいる。

Originally Posted by Tangerang

On the other hand, at least it's better than that one guy who kept insisting that Shiki would have Ex ranked Agi as a Servant.

Ryougi does!

**terraablaze** · April 11th, 2011, 02:20 PM

Originally Posted by I3uster

I knew I should have started out with someone else, this reaction was kind of expected in hindsight.

It is not who you choose it is just that some of your choices are questionable. Most of us here think Servants get weaker (with lots of textual evidence) than they were in life.
And agility is not the measure of a Servants speed, it is more like fine motor control. Those who are known for being really fast just also happen to have high agility so they don't crash into stuff while going Mach pick your favorite number here.

**I3uster** · April 11th, 2011, 02:21 PM

Originally Posted by Tangerang

On the other hand, at least it's better than that one guy who kept insisting that Shiki would have Ex ranked Agi as a Servant.

How does that even work?
And if I could ask something fo you to keep this thread going:
Combine correcting the OP with a Servant of your own, so this won't become a thread stillbirth.
Puh-leaze.

I always got the impression they got stronger when becoming Servants, since fame is factoring in this, or did fame affect their strength while being alive?

**Tangerang** · April 11th, 2011, 02:22 PM

Random remembrance:

I think my favorite Shiki NP was the joke Natsu-yoru which was ranked E but became EX when used against fruit.

Originally Posted by I3uster

How does that even work?

I have no idea. Something about how apparently Shiki was much faster than Servants or something based on really random stuff.

Made it even more hilarious that Ryougi apparently does have Ex ranked Agi in Extra though.

**eddyak** · April 11th, 2011, 02:24 PM

What you got wrong was:

He can kill NPs but can't kill Servants- It really should be the other way around. Nasu said Shiki vs Shirou, Shiki's head would probably explode trying to kill all the NPs Shirou comes out with. As a Servant himself, he should be able to perceive the death of other Servants, too, even if it's only the same kind of thing as the TATARI clones- lines, not dots.

Archer should be able to pull his head off with casual ease, has twin C-ranked NPs and he only has D-rank Str. Sasaki, being probably one of the best Servants with a sword, ever, has A+ agility.

Unless this is DA Shiki you're talking about, he still wouldn't be that high in specs.

**I3uster** · April 11th, 2011, 02:26 PM

Originally Posted by Tangerang

Random remembrance:

I think my favorite Shiki NP was the joke Natsu-yoru which was ranked E but became EX when used against fruit.

I have no idea. Something about how apparently Shiki was much faster than Servants or something based on really random stuff.

Made it even more hilarious that Ryougi apparently does have Ex ranked Agi in Extra though.

My guess: EX ranked agility makes you grow additional legs.
While this makes you more agile than most people, after too much legs your agility is hampered and you are easily attacked.

Originally Posted by eddyak

What you got wrong was:

He can kill NPs but can't kill Servants- It really should be the other way around. Nasu said Shiki vs Shirou, Shiki's head would probably explode trying to kill all the NPs Shirou comes out with. As a Servant himself, he should be able to perceive the death of other Servants, too, even if it's only the same kind of thing as the TATARI clones- lines, not dots.

Archer should be able to pull his head off with casual ease, has twin C-ranked NPs and he only has D-rank Str. Sasaki, being probably one of the best Servants with a sword, ever, has A+ agility.

Unless this is DA Shiki you're talking about, he still wouldn't be that high in specs.

Aw shit, this was a misunderstanding on my part, I thought that he COULD kill NPs because of that Nasu interview.
My error then.
But I still think fending of the "Queen" of clock tower can only be attributed to is sick agility and speed, since he would not have used his eyes for a nonlethal battle (He fought her, right? My memory is a bit hazy there, may have to reread prelude).

**Crown** · April 11th, 2011, 02:28 PM

Originally Posted by I3uster

My guess: EX ranked agility makes you grow additional legs.

wait what

**I3uster** · April 11th, 2011, 02:31 PM

And arms, I forgot arms

**eddyak** · April 11th, 2011, 02:31 PM

Agility isn't how fast they can go. I think it's a sort of mixup between Dexterity and how accurate they are with their attacks. Lancer has A ranked agil, despite being the fastest Servant. Sasaki has A+, despite being completely human.

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