Fate/strange fake (Free-Range Spoilers)

[Amazigh]

Now just imagine if he combined his Noble Phantasms. A massive myriad of Demon Jacks all pouncing one enemy/group at once.

[jennajayfeather]

Lol it's probably underwhelming on purpose. If he was actually going to beat Herc with it, it'd probably be cooler.

[yokushi]

Now just imagine if he combined his Noble Phantasms. A massive myriad of Demon Jacks all pouncing one enemy/group at once.

I think I saw people commenting he actually can do it under Flat because Flat is that good of a Master or something.

The way people was talking it seems that From Hell was actually working against Alkeides pretty well, so there is your underwhelming NP.

[castor212]

Nah, never cared for him from the moment we found out he was Herc that was grail dumped. Don't know where all this NP discussion/powerlevel about him came from because its honestly irrelevant.

Like how I dislike Jeanne Alter regardless of her having so much screen time, but like Gorgon solely based on appearance.

I also highly doubt there's anything that can make me like or dislike him in the upcoming volumes. I already know which characters I'm interested in.

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See, now this Jack's concept is much more interesting than the loli version.

i mean

lots of comment seems to actively hating him

weird

[fumei]

Is it the same term used when talking about the knight classes (Saber, Lancer, Archer)?

No, that should be 三騎士.

[Nobody]

i mean

lots of comment seems to actively hating him

weird

Seems to me that they're just shitting on him cause its fun.

(It is kinda fun)

[castor212]

point

[Iceblade44]

OK, here are the character sheets for Jack and Prelati. I'll go over them again when I have the book to make sure I didn't misread anything in the scans. I translate some names a bit differently than is usual, because who ever heard of "London mist"?

Berserker

Class:

Berserker


Master: Flat Escardos
True Name: Jack the Ripper
Sex: Varies based on transformation
Height and Weight: Varies based on transformation
Alignment: Neutral Evil

Strength: — (All except Noble Phantasm tuned by transformation)
Endurance: — (All except Noble Phantasm tuned by transformation)
Agility: — (All except Noble Phantasm tuned by transformation)
Magical Power: — (All except Noble Phantasm tuned by transformation)
Luck: — (All except Noble Phantasm tuned by transformation)
Noble Phantasm: B

Personal Skills:
Thousand Faces: A
The ability to transform oneself into any human occupation, animal or object that has been presented as the true identity of Jack the Ripper, and to make use of any skills the target possesses, weakened to rank E.

Walker of Foggy Nights: B
An altered form of the skill Murder on a Foggy Night, which Jack would possess if manifested as another Class.
Grants an equal rank of Block Presence as long as it is night.

Class Skills:
Mad Enhancement: —
Because Jack's fundamental attribute is madness, an inversion occurred and this skill was sealed. That seal, however, is extremely unstable.

Noble Phantasms:
Evil Fog Perishes With the London Dawn: From Hell
Rank: A+-E-; Classification: Anti-Personnel Noble Phantasm; Range: 1-80; Persons Affected: —
Based on the theory that Jack the Ripper was a demon, this Noble Phantasm transforms Jack into a demon in the sense of a phantasmal species. Because it is rooted in the latent fear and unease of nearby people, its power changes in proportion to the population density within a radius of 5 km. In a desert wasteland, its strength is only equal to that of a large beast of prey. In an urban area, it displays a power equivalent to that of a marshal Servant.
Because it takes the form of a demon that humans envision as their own natural enemy, it inflicts particularly effective damage on humans.

That Is Not Worth the End of Tragedy: Natural Born Killers
Rank: B; Classification: Anti-Army Noble Phantasm; Range: —; Maximum Supplement: —
A Noble Phantasm based on the theory that Jack the Ripper was a group. Enables the creation of multiple bodies according to the Master's magical energy. The last remaining body automatically becomes the main body. It can also be said that every body is the main one. The maximum number depends on the quantity of the Master's magical energy. The number of bodies decreases in proportion to the strength of the entity transformed into.

True Caster

Class:

True Caster


Master: Francesca Prelati
True Name: Francois Prelati
Sex: Unknown (summoned Saint Graph is male)
Height and Weight: 152 cm, 38 kg
Alignment: Chaotic Evil

Strength: E
Endurance: D
Agility: C
Magical Power: A
Luck: B
Noble Phantasm: A

Personal Skills:
Illusion: A
A skill that denotes excellence in the art of illusion within the field of magecraft. At this level, it is even possible to go beyond people and deceive the environment.

Disciple of Spirits: B
Proof that one has been initiated in magecraft by certain lake spirits. The efficacy of magecraft improves dramatically.

Divinity: E-
Prelati shares the blood of a deity, but as that deity is banished his rank is low.
Barely manifested at rank E due to combination with traditions that link Prelati with Beelzebub.

Class Skills:
Territory Creation: B
Tool Creation: B

Noble Phantasms:
The Sunken Spiral Castle Does Not Exist, Therefore There is No End to This World's Madness: Grand Illusion
Rank: A; Classification: Anti-Personnel Noble Phantasm; Range: 1-10; Maximum Capture: 10 people
Legends that Prelati revealed the form of Beelzebub to sworn friends or that he (she) was the incarnation of Beelzebub combined with the art of illusion and lineage that Prelati originally possessed and sublimated into a Noble Phantasm. It is a great magecraft that surpasses even environment to deceive the very texture of the world. It is even capable of causing a target to hallucinate that Prelati has imprisoned them in a Reality Marble. It is still an illusion, however, and therefore lacks the power of a Reality Marble.

Textbook of the Sunken Spiral Castle: Prelati's Spellbook (unusable)
Rank: EX; Classification: Anti-Army Noble Phantasm; Range: 1-99; Maximum Capture: 1,000 people
The result of Prelati utilizing magecraft while dispelling their own rationality with drugs Prelati compounded themselves. Against astronomical odds, it ended up linked to a place one must not link to, Prelati inscribed the truth of it in a blank bible that was a Mystic Code and sealed the link itself. Prelati was therefore incapable of reproducing it, and entrusted the spellbook capable of opening the one and only link to a knight who was their sworn friend. Prelati can never use the Noble Phantasm unless the knight returns it on the spiritual level, but will the day of their reunion ever come?

Thanks for to TLS. Hm well Jack is certainly interesting, definitely feels like a Berserker which is great since I was worrying if he was going to be more Assassin like. I wonder what is the upper limits of From Hell is tho, if I remember right Snowfield isn't that populated right? I wonder what would happen if you stick him somewhere like Tokyo.

Prelati is interesting, I like how Narita was able to come up with so much for a person so obscure. Also now I get the seal on the Spellbook, it's because Gilles has it. Some clarification tho, what is the difference between Grand Illusion and the skill Illusion? They just seem the same.

[hinode]

A Servant who specializes in armed conflict. The Japanese is 武闘派 (lit. "armed conflict school/faction"), which normally refers to someone who uses or advocates violence over compromise to resolve problems or push their position (hawkish, bellicose, etc.).

Wouldn't 'martial' fit better than 'marshal', then?

[yokushi]

I wonder what is the upper limits of From Hell is tho, if I remember right Snowfield isn't that populated right? I wonder what would happen if you stick him somewhere like Tokyo.

Snowfield's population is 800,000.

[meeps]

I have to agree with Castor though, there seems to be quite a bit of dislike for Alkeides and his master, even when certain things have not yet been revealed. As a matter of fact, about half or more of the servants have not even revealed their full power in the story. I think Narita just happened to have revealed a bit more of Alkeides's power thus far.

[Rafflesiac]

I wonder what Prelati's killing move is: Illusioning some other Servants into shooting each other?

And Jack's cool; I hope that unstable seal of his doesn't come undone anytime soon.

[jennajayfeather]

And Jack's cool; I hope that unstable seal of his doesn't come undone anytime soon.

Hmm...

〔Righto. You got lucky, though. If I had manifested as a Servant of any other class, I would have possessed your body and gone on a maddened rampage to... well, in any case, let us just say that I would be swimming in blood by now.〕

Curious. Interesting.

El-Melloi II wondered if it was not his student who had gotten the Mad Enhancement skill, but then thought that Flat had probably had it already, and kept his cool.

[HetareTTK]

i mean

lots of comment seems to actively hating him

weird

I don't really hate him , I mean I kind of hate him because he went after Tsubaki but mostly I just enjoy the banter tbh. It was the same when Alter Emiya came out, people just enjoy shitting on an edgelod cuz it's fun.

I HAVE TO BE MUH EDGY KING, KILLING EVERYTHING IN MUH PATH, BACKSTABBING AND TRASHTALKING PEOPLE IN DUEL BECAUSE THAT'S HOW KING SHOULD BE

His conversation with Scathach, Nero and the Chaldea team is exactly that

He's exactly what edgy kid fap to

I am an edgy king is sever orders of magnitude lower than "I am euphoric and I need no gods! I hate you daddy!", if you want to compare him on the edge scale use Alter Emiya as a reference point because it doesn't get more edgy than "here if you want me to shut up about how edgy I am, take my guns and shoot me in the head".

[OtherSideofSky]

Wouldn't 'martial' fit better than 'marshal', then?

That was what I meant to write but somehow didn't manage to because I'd been awake for 30+ straight hours at the time.

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probably

Thanks. That was also my eventual guess after peering at it under magnification.

[castor212]

OtherSideofSky,canyoucheckPM?

[OtherSideofSky]

OtherSideofSky,canyoucheckPM?

I'm so sorry. I completely failed to notice that PMs even existed this entire time.

[Aozaki-desu]

I wonder what Prelati's killing move is: Illusioning some other Servants into shooting each other?

You dont really need the killing move if you have unlimited potential of gaming the masters

[asterism42]

Sorry for asking a similar question so soon on the heels of the last one, but how is Prelati's Grand Illusion NP different from his illusion skill?

[OtherSideofSky]

Sorry for asking a similar question so soon on the heels of the last one, but how is Prelati's Grand Illusion NP different from his illusion skill?

As far as I can tell based on their descriptions, Grand Illusion is just an order of magnitude stronger, and can therefore be used to cast types of illusions that Prelati can't without it.