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    Quote Originally Posted by Dartz View Post
    I thought Zelretch was going to be mentioned, since it seemed this Ayaka was a creation of Zel and his friend. What with the Extra chapter in vol 1 being named "Observer, or Character Creation". Caubac even picked up glasses for her personally.
    I guess it's the fact he made her real by "confirming" her existence among infinite possibilities and the World just filled in the blanks/history.
    It's more like they were picking from pre-existing options. What happened there is that Zelretch was browsing timelines and found FsF, but he saw that if left unattended, FsF is the "Jester wins" timeline, so he went "Spider, don't want that" and started choosing a mage to intervene.
    But Caubac stops him and recommends a non-mage intruder, presumably because Zelretch's choice of mage would cause the "Francesca wins" timeline, which inconveniences him perfectly because Francesca's Grail wish is to steal Caubac's treasure.

    Caubac selected fake Ayaka from Zelretch's book so it makes more sense to me that she was fully pre-existing. Her semi-copying Sajou Ayaka's looks could have been on Caubac though. Caubac is also more directly involved with creating the phone line between Dumas and Waver to prevent Ishtar as well. Zel is here basically just watching Caubac do his moves.
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    Some pantheons are depicted as Tamamo, while others are only potentially Tamamo.

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    Good instincts, chat.

    Getting wind of this is literally the entire reason I started reading fsf at all, and you know what? It actually was worth it. I hope Narita takes it even further than what I've theorised here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Comun View Post
    It's more like they were picking from pre-existing options. What happened there is that Zelretch was browsing timelines and found FsF, but he saw that if left unattended, FsF is the "Jester wins" timeline, so he went "Spider, don't want that" and started choosing a mage to intervene.
    But Caubac stops him and recommends a non-mage intruder, presumably because Zelretch's choice of mage would cause the "Francesca wins" timeline, which inconveniences him perfectly because Francesca's Grail wish is to steal Caubac's treasure.

    Caubac selected fake Ayaka from Zelretch's book so it makes more sense to me that she was fully pre-existing. Her semi-copying Sajou Ayaka's looks could have been on Caubac though. Caubac is also more directly involved with creating the phone line between Dumas and Waver to prevent Ishtar as well. Zel is here basically just watching Caubac do his moves.
    lol Jester, he is a bigger deal than he seems. That makes sense. I guess this would be an example of the Record manipulation/revision of possibilities of the Second mentioned by Touko in Mahoyo.
    The priest was waiting for the arrival of the princess, who was only an enemy of all of them.
    For the priest, the golden princess was the one and only main heroine.
    Everyone else was unworthy of his respect, no matter how strong they were.

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    Thank you for the translation of this entire volume, Comun!

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    Thanks so much for the translation, Comun!

    Quote Originally Posted by tsugumi View Post
    See, I completely read that as her blaming him for falling for a woman's charm in the first place. Magi aren't supposed to do that, let alone fall in love, it's a moral failing on his part. And if he had the impulse, he should have done his job as head and resisted it.
    Waver gasses Kayneth up so much in recent works that I actually forget he was kinda a loser.

    Quote Originally Posted by Comun View Post
    It's more like they were picking from pre-existing options. What happened there is that Zelretch was browsing timelines and found FsF, but he saw that if left unattended, FsF is the "Jester wins" timeline, so he went "Spider, don't want that" and started choosing a mage to intervene.
    But Caubac stops him and recommends a non-mage intruder, presumably because Zelretch's choice of mage would cause the "Francesca wins" timeline, which inconveniences him perfectly because Francesca's Grail wish is to steal Caubac's treasure.

    Caubac selected fake Ayaka from Zelretch's book so it makes more sense to me that she was fully pre-existing. Her semi-copying Sajou Ayaka's looks could have been on Caubac though. Caubac is also more directly involved with creating the phone line between Dumas and Waver to prevent Ishtar as well. Zel is here basically just watching Caubac do his moves.
    This is Caubac we're talking about, wouldn't surprise me if there were somehow another Triten incident. Somehow.

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    I mean, Triten pretty explicitly is Francesca’s goal.
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    Some pantheons are depicted as Tamamo, while others are only potentially Tamamo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hermitfold View Post
    Waver gasses Kayneth up so much in recent works that I actually forget he was kinda a loser.
    Being a loser for love is the correct way to be!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Comun View Post
    I mean, Triten pretty explicitly is Francesca’s goal.
    Oh, forgot about that. Wonder if that's how things are gonna go...

    Quote Originally Posted by tsugumi View Post
    Being a loser for love is the correct way to be!
    A hilarious statement considering how that love ended.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hermitfold View Post
    A hilarious statement considering how that love ended.
    The outcome is what makes the dedication to it so powerful.

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    Imagine Franny's face when she gatecrashes the Labyrinth only to find that Triten has been missing for years
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    So is ayaka a wraith or somethin? Given that she's the little red riding hood?

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    No, she's another piece of Albion that turned into a cute girl.

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    Just have a quick question as too much on my plate to read right now but did Eresh possesed Rin? Also quick answer as to why?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reverse_side98 View Post
    Just have a quick question as too much on my plate to read right now but did Eresh possesed Rin? Also quick answer as to why?
    For a brief moment, and basically since Rin's body had been used as her vessel in another timeline, it's sorta like she came to beat up her sister and found a barbed wire bat in just her size laying around.
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    Thanks for the translation, Comun!!!

    That is quite a finish. Alcides continue to be broken. Somehow absorbing Gugulana's hurricane ability. I am curious about whether or not he still has Jack's NP? I guess I just assumed he would only be able to steal one NP at a time, because otherwise that ability is just completely broken. I imagine the crew will have to deal with him next. Hopefully that means it is time for Gilgamesh to return to the land of the living and Tine to take her place on stage again? Hopefully!! Because Gil seems the best equipped to fight him through a hurricane.

    And then there is Not Ayaka... Thia really speaks the truth here. There is a lot about her that does not make sense and is suspicious. I am a little disappointed that Red Riding Hood does not seem equivalent to the Red Shadow from Witch on the Holy Night (I knew that was a long shot, but I was still hoping for it), but I am still holding out hope for a Manaka connection, because I really really really want to see more Manaka. But based on Reines bit at the end right there, it seems more likely that Not Ayaka is a human-like manifestation of the El-Melloi's mana reactor that they lost in the 4HGW.

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    So, Ayaka is basically a mana-battery made into character, interesting.
    Also can't wait to see Alcides edgy ass got beaten to death cause he has been alive for way too long than he should.

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    Why everyone hates Alcides? I think he's cool af.

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    I like him too, but admittedly his NP is pretty broken and a lot of BS tends to go his way. I can understand why that can aggravate some people.

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    And now he's slowly losing his mind. He might be corrupted before, but he's at least still aware of his actions. He might turn into mindless, out of control Berserker and be the next threat after Ishtar-Gugalanna.



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