Fate/strange fake (Free-Range Spoilers)

[OnesFleetingGlory]

Um... destroying the Grail? Do they all not have their own wishes they want to be granted?

[Norayd]

Um... destroying the Grail? Do they all not have their own wishes they want to be granted?

That's what Zealot is there for

[Comun]

Um... destroying the Grail? Do they all not have their own wishes they want to be granted?

Destroying the Grail is the wish Assassin, Sigma, and the El-Melloi Classroom want granted.

[CO9p5JMGv!p9]

Destroying the Grail is the wish Assassin, Sigma, and the El-Melloi Classroom want granted.

So selfish...

[Hermitfold]

Destroying the Grail is the wish Assassin, Sigma, and the El-Melloi Classroom want granted.

Come to think of it, I can't remember but is this one broken as well.

[L.H.S]

Is the grail corrupted in this one?

[Rafflesiac]

Only if Alk dies, one presumes.

[Asch]

No NP or new skills for Gil Alter Ego?

from what people have said, no not really. I heard he has something similar to his bow-blade from prototype (Enki), but everything else seems very similar to his normal set. He still has gate of babylon, and nobody has mentioned anything in terms of skills yet

[You]

from what people have said, no not really. I heard he has something similar to his bow-blade from prototype (Enki), but everything else seems very similar to his normal set. He still has gate of babylon, and nobody has mentioned anything in terms of skills yet

Spoiler:

There is no bow-blade, only a small golden lyre that plays itself. Likely a reference to the historical "Golden Lyres of Ur".
Gil Alter Ego's thing is that he uses anything he needs to from GOB without regard to its value or who he is using it on. He is the Badass VS Thread's hypothetical "serious Gil."
For instance, when he awakens, Alter Ego Gil immediately identifies all the the spies in Tine's retinue and makes one of them admit the truth using a NP mirror and burned them in the same way Tine burned Archer Gil's first Master. Archer Gil wanted to see if Tine could figure it out or see what would happen if she didn't.
He is a system for elevating humans to the seat of god and acts accordingly without compassion, no matter how angelic he may seem.
Vs Alcides, he uses the all the original NPs in GOB to form two hands, a hand of heaven and a hand of the earth, to pray

[GuP3ixe]

I kind of wanted a new design for this new version Gil, but I guess it's literally him just younger. Also is he an Alter Ego class servant or an Alter Ego as a different version of him but still an Archer?

[You]

Is the grail corrupted in this one?

Spoiler:

The fragment of the corrupted Greater Grail that Francesca stole from Fuyuki has developed into a giant vortex of mud. This is the Snowfield Greater Grail.
Sigma sees it this volume.
The cave its held is Faldeus' ultimate puppet

[ryugasaikyou]

No NP or new skills for Gil Alter Ego?

Didn't someone mention that he used a giant fist?

[Bobin]

Spoiler:

There is no bow-blade, only a small golden lyre that plays itself. Likely a reference to the historical "Golden Lyres of Ur".
Gil Alter Ego's thing is that he uses anything he needs to from GOB without regard to its value or who he is using it on. He is the Badass VS Thread's hypothetical "serious Gil."
For instance, when he awakens, Alter Ego Gil immediately identifies all the the spies in Tine's retinue and makes one of them admit the truth using a NP mirror and burned them in the same way Tine burned Archer Gil's first Master. Archer Gil wanted to see if Tine could figure it out or see what would happen if she didn't.
He is a system for elevating humans to the seat of god and acts accordingly without compassion, no matter how angelic he may seem.
Vs Alcides, he uses the all the original NPs in GOB to form two hands, a hand of heaven and a hand of the earth, to pray

wtf, I really wasn’t expecting that

Entirely sounds like Narita’s handiwork though.

[Ronove]

Spoiler:

There is no bow-blade, only a small golden lyre that plays itself. Likely a reference to the historical "Golden Lyres of Ur".
Gil Alter Ego's thing is that he uses anything he needs to from GOB without regard to its value or who he is using it on. He is the Badass VS Thread's hypothetical "serious Gil."
For instance, when he awakens, Alter Ego Gil immediately identifies all the the spies in Tine's retinue and makes one of them admit the truth using a NP mirror and burned them in the same way Tine burned Archer Gil's first Master. Archer Gil wanted to see if Tine could figure it out or see what would happen if she didn't.
He is a system for elevating humans to the seat of god and acts accordingly without compassion, no matter how angelic he may seem.
Vs Alcides, he uses the all the original NPs in GOB to form two hands, a hand of heaven and a hand of the earth, to pray

Spoiler:

Did/Does he have a specific method or approach for elevating humans to gods?
Like Kirschtaria's plan?

[friendly]

Spoiler:

The fragment of the corrupted Greater Grail that Francesca stole from Fuyuki has developed into a giant vortex of mud. This is the Snowfield Greater Grail.
Sigma sees it this volume.
The cave its held is Faldeus' ultimate puppet

Spoiler:

What the hell??? Is the cave system the inside of a giant puppet or something?

[MoonCell]

So, with FSF almost ending, what are the main guesses for the identities of Watcher's Shadows? We can be sure enough of Captain Ahab, Icarus Asclepius and Amelia Earhart, but what about the other three? The Knight, the Samurai and the Elf-Man? What are you all's theories? From the manga depiction I think the Knight might be Nicholas of Cologne, the leader of one of the Children's Crusade. He looks very young, has a templar-like armor and knows about Richard the Lionheart, so the first thing that comes to mind is the Crusades, with his appearance suggesting the Children's Crusade. The Samurai has very generic looks, but he reminds me of FGO's Yagyuu Munenori, so my guess is another Yagyuu family member. The Elf-man's womanizing behavior and looks makes me think Tam Lin.

Also, I don't remember if this is true of fanon, but I recall something on the lines of Watcher's shadows being people that died because of it. When we got Watcher's profile, which heavily suggested its identity as

Spoiler:

Leviathan,

I thought the connecting thread between all of them was having died at sea. Ahab dies at sea, Icarus dies falling into the sea, Amelia's plane could've also fallen into the sea. The death of Asclepius, however, has nothing to do with the sea. Nowadays I feel like the connecting thread is that they all died daring to do something that should've been impossible. Trying to kill a whale that's essentially an avatar of God's fury (or Nature's fury). Flying too close to the sun. Ressurrecting the dead. Voyaging around the whole globe with a yet to be perfected way of travel. Fits the whole "trials to become a hero" schtick Watcher has. But if this is truly the case, I really can't make sense of her supposed identity. Why would it be an avatar of daring?

[You]

Spoiler:

What the hell??? Is the cave system the inside of a giant puppet or something?

Spoiler:

The cavern is a sacred place to Tine's people and the foci of the Snowfield Leyline. Erected along the wall are metal scaffolds that are viewing platforms for the greater grail within the cavity. In reality, those scaffolds are Faldeus' ultimate puppet, like a multi-headed gigantic snake.

[Lion-of-Avalon]

So, with FSF almost ending, what are the main guesses for the identities of Watcher's Shadows? We can be sure enough of Captain Ahab, Icarus Asclepius and Amelia Earhart, but what about the other three? The Knight, the Samurai and the Elf-Man? What are you all's theories? From the manga depiction I think the Knight might be Nicholas of Cologne, the leader of one of the Children's Crusade. He looks very young, has a templar-like armor and knows about Richard the Lionheart, so the first thing that comes to mind is the Crusades, with his appearance suggesting the Children's Crusade. The Samurai has very generic looks, but he reminds me of FGO's Yagyuu Munenori, so my guess is another Yagyuu family member. The Elf-man's womanizing behavior and looks makes me think Tam Lin.

The knight appears to be young and got offended when Sigma made a Monty Python mention, so I've been suspecting that he's Bors (he's obviously got the Arthurian connection to get offended by the Monty Python reference and is an apprentice knight in the Nasuverse which explains his young appearance). He wouldn't know Richard from life but that shouldn't matter thanks to Watcher, right?

As for the other non-samurai guy (the elf-man), I think the popular speculation has been Orion. Not sure about the samurai.

[Comun]

As for the other non-samurai guy (the elf-man), I think the popular speculation has been Orion.

The Orion silhouette even has his more recent descriptions being nods FGO's Super Orion design.

Ahab, Icarus, Asclepius, Musashi, Children's Crusade leader, Orion, Amelia Earhart is how I see the roster.

[OnesFleetingGlory]

Male Musashi please, since FSR has the design reference.