Exactly
Exactly
Going by that, them fading away while still wanting to fight each some more would be their endpoint.Originally Posted by Comun
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I think I've realized my main issue with Strange Fake. It's essentially three or four different stories happening at the same time. I mean, it's always an issue with Grail Wars, due to the glut of characters, but it feels so much more excessive this time. It worked in Stay Night because of the VN format, it could essentially tell its stories one at a time. Here it just feels bulky and unnecessary.
Even Apocrypha, with its cast reaching critical mass, managed to have essentially one storyline with really just two clear villains - Darnic and Shirou. And they were the villains of the same plot, and one of them dies pretty early on at the hand of the other. Who is the 'main' bad guy here? Is it Ishtar, is it Jester? They feel like the antagonists of two completely different stories. And likewise, who is the main protagonist? Flat, Sigma, or Ayaka?
Well that's kinda what Narita always does
Yeah I can also back that up, that's how his stories work. They are an ensemble cast rather than having a singular protagonist and antagonist.
As someone who usually falls for supporting characters rather than the "main character" of the work, I tend to like ensemble cast stories because of the roughly equal screentime.
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That's what makes it great.
I still can't imagine how pale rider can combine with grail mud
You can't just dump him into the mud and call it a day
That’s pretty what I fear. Or they both die and are absorbed into the grail to power some other threat up to insane proportions.
Ensemble casts work way better for a HGW, one perspecting is too limiting, especially when parts of it are wasted on SoL.
The main teams are apparently supposed to be Saber, Gil and Sigma. However Narita has expanded upon side characters like Flatt to the point there’s little distinction anymore.
So in conclusion Gil has to revive, he and Enkidu have to probably take out Humbaba, the Bull, Ishtar and perhaps some other enemy factions, and can then have their duel if they live through all that. That’s quite a lot.About the fight
My personal guess is that Enkidu (or less likely, Gil) gets infected at some point, they have their final duel until one or both of them kicks the bucket due to other circumstances, and maybe the other goes on the destroy the final threat.
I do think the confrontation is going to happen is some form, the fanservice value is too great to ignore. They are on the cover for vol 1 and that they appear together is draws people to the series. There’s also a lot of Babylonian stuff going on, so it’s clearly a theme. Narita recreating the myth is also possible.
I just wonder how many volumes Narita needs to wrap this all up.
It's almost as if it was a half-baked April Fool's idea that was excavated and expanded later.
That's like exactly how I imagine it lol.
If Flat can be put into a metaphorical pressure cooker and mixed with Jack I think it's possible for the mud to blend with pale.
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Main characters in Narita works tend to be really blended in general. I feel like how he had called Firo a "main-ish" character, is kind of how he writes main characters in general.
Flat & Jack might not be a "main character" though he had said he wanted to write Jack (as well as Haruri and Humbaba) as hard as Ayaka & Co., and I really doubt he had just came up with that idea during Vol. 4. Flat's past & mystery were always meant to be a major plot point, so i kind of feel he was just kinda saying that when that Vol. came up. Like, I don't think he writes spontaneously since it does have a general flow going to it.
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This reminds me of when someone declares Gil the main character of this and claimed his fights were the primary focus of the story, good times
Does anyone like character sorting games here? Because here's one for FSF characters.
https://sajyouayaka.tumblr.com/sorter
yeah agree
it's obivious that ayaka is the MC. She replaced player A from the april version, the zelretch part, biggest focus and the MC is always the one who summons saber even in the CM she got the iconic "are you my master" sceneEven Apocrypha, with its cast reaching critical mass, managed to have essentially one storyline with really just two clear villains - Darnic and Shirou. And they were the villains of the same plot, and one of them dies pretty early on at the hand of the other. Who is the 'main' bad guy here? Is it Ishtar, is it Jester? They feel like the antagonists of two completely different stories. And likewise, who is the main protagonist? Flat, Sigma, or Ayaka?
I will press that X there
strange Fake does a much better job at feeling like a living world with characters who matter, compared to Apo that dumped the idea of 7v7 pretty early and made like 40% of the Masters non-characters from the start. This comes at the cost of it seeming like nothing is happening relative to how much that was packed into five volumes of Apo, along with Narita's penchant for keeping characters around longer than necessary. Despite the flaws, sF comes out as way better in my opinion.
Well that's not entirely true. Sure Ayaka has traits mostly from player A but you know who also has traits from player A: Sigma.
Although he's not beat to beat with player A like Ayaka is, he's still have a lot of things taken from player A. Like they both have shadows servants, they both met a strange white hair women that put them in the grail war, and they both "nobodies wildcards". Hell in the April fools version the player is supposed to replace the Saber spot. Which turned into Sigma replacing the Lancer spot.
Also another point they both basically have generic Fate MC goals with Sigma "screw the holy grail." and Ayaka "I luv my servant". The way I see it is that Ayaka and Sigma are joint MC although I can see Sigma turning literally into The Lancer
Stop denying best protagonist Gordes Musik.
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