it is said that the only way to truly understand emptiness is to recite the heart sutra and sura al-rahman 25 times a day for a whole year. that or just be an amazon employee.
it is said that the only way to truly understand emptiness is to recite the heart sutra and sura al-rahman 25 times a day for a whole year. that or just be an amazon employee.
I'll just take it as some very specific religious concept with no direct analogue Nasu borrowed.
The only true way to understand nothingness is never thinking anything about it.
I thought that was the game?
goddamnit
I don't find the basic concept that hard to grasp.
It is something the human mind is not really used to think about, at least not in those terms, but that "weirdness" aside I don't think the simple idea behind it is that complex.
It isn't really that specific or wildly out there, as much as it is a matter of philosophical viewpoint and use of words.Originally Posted by Zork Knight
Just think of it like this:
The root is everything and nothing, beginning and end, and so forth.
You have a plate with veggies.
As you eat your veggies, you have less veggies on your plate, until you eat the very last one.
At this point, what do you have? Just a plate, with no veggies. That is to say, once you removed everything that was "something" from, you weren't left with the root, you were just left with "no veggies".realitythe plate
In short, "no veggies" is the conceptual negation mentioned above, and is therefore a matter of "being" distinct from the "true emptiness" which the root would represent.
But I believe that this is also sort of the point of the text posted, that what we call it isn't really relevant as long as we detach ourselves from our familiar concept of negation and just view it as proper emptiness (sunyata/the root). This is also why Nasu talks about how if you really want to call " " something, call it kara/void, but goes on to say that people called it akashic records/spiral of origin, yet it didn't literally stop being that thing.
It's just a matter of understanding the different between there "being nothing" and "nothing".
Calling it true/proper emptiness for the nth time won't really help I think
And no wonder that if you eat all the veggies you're left with no root
I guess the actual easiest way is to say: if you have 1, and subtract, you get 0, which is a number, and separate from having "nothing" left because that'd just be weird if you performed a mathematical operation and the result was nothing at all.
But yeah, you'll get it some day, I have faith in you.
The actual concept is easy to put into words, but to actually visualise is a bit more complex. Then again, if it were so easy, everyone would achieve Enlightenment, right?
Nice!
So it's nothing but without a name then
Because that's what I'm getting here.
Actually doesn't zero also kinda etymologically trace back to Sunya?
I honestly don't understand why you're finding it so hard to grasp this
'Nothing' is still a something. Sure, it's a something that's defined by having no other things there, but it's still a something. The root is not a something. And likewise, 0 is still a number.
A E _ O U
1 2 3 _ 5
1 2 3 5 _ 11 13
1 1 2 3 _ 8 13
Nothing is the abscence of anything, not "other things"; it is no thing.
0 is a numerical representation of that, the value of nothing.
Is this just about having no name?
Well mathematically speaking "0" and empty set are two different things… I guess it is better to represent " " as empty set instead of 0 which is still something
No. One is, the other is not.
Because you are too young. Or too stupid. Or both.
The thread was literally derailed for nothing.
Kinda fitting too since more often than not 'nothing' is what defines what's going on with Strange/Fake.
I don’t consider Vol 6 ‘nothing.’ It was traumatic.
Joking aside I get annoyed when people say nothing happens even though characters are being set up, growing & explored.
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Well, I would be better if it was a bit more focused IMO. Or it is going to take 15 volumes to finish at this rate.
The absence of anything is defined by there being a thing.
[ ] is something that defies numerical or any representation and it can not be defined in comparison to anything since that means it can be defined.
Like dull's quote says it is self-emptying so it is not only not-anything, it is not-nothing, and I would said it is not-itself but it can't be a thing since that would define it.
The main idea is this isn't necessarily a physical thing, but a transcendental idea. That's why magi need to go outside the World to reach the Root.
Though abandoned, forgotten, and scorned as out-of-date dolls, they continue to carry out their mission, unchanged from the time they were designed.
Machines do not lose their worth when a newer model appears.
Their worth (life) ends when humans can no longer bear that purity.
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