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    Quote Originally Posted by Vritra View Post
    Verg are Conceptual Weapons a lot stronger in their effects than Formal Wear?
    Depends.

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    How hard is it to procure property in OLYMPUS (for students)? Say in Demeter for example? Is it possible for PCs as they are at the moment?

    What about workshops? Are they mainly on the various factional areas, or are they more peppered all over the city?
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    Since this got talked about in the chat...

    What is the difference between Eye of the Mind (False) and Instinct? What would happen if you have both? (At higher levels of the skills)

    Is there any difference between Vitrification and Presence Concealment at A rank? (Vitrification mentions "A mental protection that nullifies mental interference" in its description, but not sure if the skill does actually give you protection towards mental interference on top of invisibility mode.)


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    Besides, I don't see what's so terrible about looting anyway. It's only property, they're not actually harming anyone.
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    Vitrification is weaker then prenence concealment, assuming the conversation we had way back on moonwhite is still accurate. In general, class skills are pound for pound, better then personal skills with a similar effect.

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    Also, EotM (F) is purely defensive while instincts boosts both offense and defense, so there is that.
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    That makes me wonder, though. If Class Skills are better, how exactly does Numb to Pain work? It seems like nothing so much as a watered down version of Battle Continuation or Honor of the Battered, since it doesn't actually keep a Servant alive longer the way BC does or boost combat ability like HotB, and provides protection against pain. Servants in general seem to be able to ignore pain for the most part anyway, barring things like the Verg Avesta NP. And I doubt there's a skill out there that can outright trump an NP, barring Benkei-wank in Apocrypha.

    So, how does NtP actually work in game mechanics? Is it a Class Skill that's weaker than its Personal counterparts?
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    Is it possible to get AP/stuff when ending battles in a tie or losing but surviving?


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    Besides, I don't see what's so terrible about looting anyway. It's only property, they're not actually harming anyone.
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    when I say hero I don't mean hero in the spirit sense. I mean a morally grounded, good natured person who doesn't slaughter innocent people. No such person exists in the Nasuverse.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mellon View Post
    How hard is it to procure property in OLYMPUS (for students)? Say in Demeter for example? Is it possible for PCs as they are at the moment?
    It is rather hard, since students are given the accommodations they "need" during their stay. If a student wants to acquire property, it is clear that she or he needs it for something other than necessity.

    What about workshops? Are they mainly on the various factional areas, or are they more peppered all over the city?
    80% are focused on factional areas, but few stray ones are out there, too...

    What is the difference between Eye of the Mind (False) and Instinct? What would happen if you have both? (At higher levels of the skills)

    Is there any difference between Vitrification and Presence Concealment at A rank? (Vitrification mentions "A mental protection that nullifies mental interference" in its description, but not sure if the skill does actually give you protection towards mental interference on top of invisibility mode.)
    What toby said. Plus they have a huge lore difference, which is pretty much the same thing as difference between sorcery and runes.

    That makes me wonder, though. If Class Skills are better, how exactly does Numb to Pain work? It seems like nothing so much as a watered down version of Battle Continuation or Honor of the Battered, since it doesn't actually keep a Servant alive longer the way BC does or boost combat ability like HotB, and provides protection against pain. Servants in general seem to be able to ignore pain for the most part anyway, barring things like the Verg Avesta NP. And I doubt there's a skill out there that can outright trump an NP, barring Benkei-wank in Apocrypha.

    So, how does NtP actually work in game mechanics? Is it a Class Skill that's weaker than its Personal counterparts?
    Think of it like this. If Saber had NtP, she would have been able to use Excalibur after Diarmuid slashed her hand, or continue like it was nothing after being struck by Gae Bolg.

    Is it possible to get AP/stuff when ending battles in a tie or losing but surviving?
    It is, during special circumstances.

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    What are the specific benefits of a Workshop? Do the bonuses work on non-magi?

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    Serious question: Does Kagura have someone close in OLYMPUS? A friend or someone who cares about her (etc)?
    [18:30] RacingeR: Max S.Link with hero is when you promise your daughter to him
    [18:31] RacingeR: Which means Airen and me are the only ones that maxed it (I promised Spin to him, and Spin is my daughter)
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    [18:30] RacingeR: Max S.Link with hero is when you promise your daughter to him
    [18:31] RacingeR: Which means Airen and me are the only ones that maxed it (I promised Spin to him, and Spin is my daughter)
    [18:32] hero: oh shit
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    [18:32] hero: suck it fuckers

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    Besides, I don't see what's so terrible about looting anyway. It's only property, they're not actually harming anyone.
    Quote Originally Posted by lantzblades View Post
    when I say hero I don't mean hero in the spirit sense. I mean a morally grounded, good natured person who doesn't slaughter innocent people. No such person exists in the Nasuverse.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mellon View Post
    What are the specific benefits of a Workshop? Do the bonuses work on non-magi?
    Ability/Spell research time is cut down tremendously.

    Serious question: Does Kagura have someone close in OLYMPUS? A friend or someone who cares about her (etc)?
    As a matter of fact... there is.

    You might have already seen that person in the background.

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    Any other spellcasting Fujou (or in absence, Asakami/Ryougi) around?
    [18:30] RacingeR: Max S.Link with hero is when you promise your daughter to him
    [18:31] RacingeR: Which means Airen and me are the only ones that maxed it (I promised Spin to him, and Spin is my daughter)
    [18:32] hero: oh shit
    [18:32] hero: spincess get
    [18:32] hero: suck it fuckers

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    Can spellcasters whose factions don't have workshops rent workshops from other factions?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike1984 View Post
    Besides, I don't see what's so terrible about looting anyway. It's only property, they're not actually harming anyone.
    Quote Originally Posted by lantzblades View Post
    when I say hero I don't mean hero in the spirit sense. I mean a morally grounded, good natured person who doesn't slaughter innocent people. No such person exists in the Nasuverse.
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    [22:56] <@Sei> airen is pegging hero this time
    [22:56] <@Sei> for once airen isn't the uke
    [22:56] <@Kuroyuki> I thought Air was the Woman in the Relationship?
    [22:56] <@Airen> Yeah I kinda thought I was the girl too!

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    Quote Originally Posted by hero View Post
    Any other spellcasting Fujou (or in absence, Asakami/Ryougi) around?
    Perhaps, with right Perks and backstory...

    Can spellcasters whose factions don't have workshops rent workshops from other factions?
    From some factions.

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    IIRC one of the expansion factions rents workshops out for equivalent exchange. Though if you are comfortable with someone else having a Skelaton key for for your workshop...
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    [18:30] RacingeR: Max S.Link with hero is when you promise your daughter to him
    [18:31] RacingeR: Which means Airen and me are the only ones that maxed it (I promised Spin to him, and Spin is my daughter)
    [18:32] hero: oh shit
    [18:32] hero: spincess get
    [18:32] hero: suck it fuckers

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    How much do non-spellcasters gain from a workshop anyway? Its not like a workshop will allow you to unlock the next tier of your demon blood or whatnot.

    Or can it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tobias View Post
    IIRC one of the expansion factions rents workshops out for equivalent exchange. Though if you are comfortable with someone else having a Skelaton key for for your workshop...
    Unless you can make your own workshop, someone will have a key for it anyway. Whether it be your Dorm Head or anyone else you got it from. I guess you can add your own magical protections to stop that from happening (I doubt the door is the main thing stopping someone from barging into your workshop).

    With Servants around, its not that likely to be secure anyway.
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