Frozen (Latest Disney animated film)

[Five_X]

If Elsa and Anna died, due to them having no known living relatives, Hans would have the throne due to popular acclaim, something that did happen occasionally in medieval politics. It's important to remember that he's a spare, not the heir, to the Southern Isles. I imagine that the kingdom of the Southern Isles would like to see their dynasty on the throne of Arendelle, so they would support his claim by force if necessary - force that Arendelle wouldn't be in a position to resist. In addition, the Duke of Weselton no doubt would support Hans' ties to the throne in order to win favour with him, as he clearly has no favour with the current court of the kingdom.

A search party was sent to find Anna, and considering the situation they found with Elsa's castle there and no Anna to be found, Elsa would clearly be suspect of the murder (accidental or otherwise) of her sister. Anna and Hans were very visibly lovey-dovey, ultimately drawing suspicion away from Hans, while Anna and Elsa didn't exactly get along. Then, Anna goes up to find Elsa, and she isn't found when a search party goes up to Elsa's castle. That points to Anna being not quite in the realm of the living any longer, and Elsa having something to do with it.

As for the marriage, I imagine it was just a ploy to give himself more of a claim to the throne of Arendelle, as he would be the closest, upon the deaths of the sisters, to the throne.

The loyal guards I imagine were left to die in Elsa's castle or in the mountains, and the rest of the populace were either men who had come along with Hans and the Duke of Weselton or just part of the populace, afraid of their apparently insane, angry and dangerous queen. Locking her away, in the end, was keeping her under control, regardless of Hans' intentions in the end. I'm pretty most people in Arendelle would want her locked up, simply because from what they've seen, merely being around her is almost a death sentence because she can't control her powers.

[Not Gilgamesh]

There have to be living relatives, no matter how distant. A successor can always be found by looking at the family tree unless they kept no records whatsoever, in wich case I say again - horrible organization.
Also, as queen, Elsa should be above the authorities of the law and cannot be held accountable for any crime, even murder of her sister. Any attempt to punish her would be considered treason.

[Kieran]

There have to be living relatives, no matter how distant. A successor can always be found by looking at the family tree unless they kept no records whatsoever, in wich case I say again - horrible organization.
Also, as queen, Elsa should be above the authorities of the law and cannot be held accountable for any crime, even murder of her sister. Any attempt to punish her would be considered treason.

Depends on the time period. In the era of an absolute monarchy, yes - but it's possible that Arendelle is a constitutional one. And there's another factor you're overlooking: the Church. The Pope, Holiest of Holies, representative of God on Earth, has at the very least some influence in politics (how much has always been traditionally in dispute). He could call her to account for her crimes; and in fact, given her demonstrated sorcery, excommunication for her and possibly the entire kingdom as a witch and a heretic is likely.

And if she failed to obey the edicts, he could always call up a holy Crusade to cleanse the blight of Arendelle from God's earth.

[Not Gilgamesh]

Arendelle is supposed to be somewhere up in the north, so I'd bet it's a protestant kingdom (meaning not under of influence of the Pope). But, bottom line, even if there was someone for Elsa to answer for her alleged crimes to, it most certainly wasn't bloody Hans.

[Laith]

You don't get this "Will of the people" and "A king is nothing without its kingdom" thing right?

[Not Gilgamesh]

You don't get this "Will of the people" and "A king is nothing without its kingdom" thing right?

What a silly idea. Everything a king needs is power and Elsa has that in abundance; even without the support of her people.

[Laith]

Right, yes, okay just checking. We can stop here.

[deviatesfish]

[Artee]

[Kieran]

Neat map - I didn't notice it until now, sorry. And that's interesting, given that Denmark (Hans Christian Andersen's homeland) is actually the Southern Isles, rather than Arendelle like I'd have assumed. Instead, it looks like Arendelle corresponds to southern Norway - which, in the 17th century (which seems to be "Frozen's" general time period) was a Protestant country (Lutheran, to be specific). As was Denmark, which Norway was a vassal state of for quite some time, that period included.

. . . Thus ends the lesson on European history, and my two cents on the above argument - I know it was laid to rest (and I approve), but I just thought adding the context might be nice.

Not quite as creepy as I was expecting, but a neat way of twisting existing footage.

[Huitante]

From how rather inappropriate actual trailer felt this one is about as accurate at representing the movie.

I like these. Once upon a time I found a romantic comedy trailer for The Shining and it got me into watching some Kubrick movies, lol.

[Servant Shiki]

That video is well done considering that the movies very lighthearted most of the time.

[The Geek]

I prefer the video where they did this same thing with Mary Poppins.

[Kieran]

Season 4 of "Once Upon a Time" cannot come fast enough. I honestly squeed when I saw the colour of the liquid that emerged from the prison urn - and while I was disappointed it didn't form a snowflake pattern before assuming human shape, they got the hair colour and style right, along with Elsa's dress - and a wisp of frost magic, just to make it absolutely clear who's showing up next year. YAY! *bounces in seat*

[deviatesfish]

Nooooo... they'll ruin it... noooooooooooooooo...

[Kieran]

I don't know about "ruin" - judging by Ariel's example, they're liable to come a bit closer to Andersen's original work, or at least a slightly Grimmer twist on the story. Possibly we'll get the evil Elsa prototype, which could be interesting in and of itself.

[deviatesfish]

Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo they'll ruin ittttttttt OUAT always so low budget-looking and main characters so stifffffff...

Cept Mr. Gold, but there's always an exception to the rule...

[Kieran]

He's arguably the most awesome character on the show - certainly the best of the regulars (you have to admit, Zelena was pretty cool).

And as for the rest, we'll have to agree to disagree, and wait to see which one of us is right.

[ItsaRandomUsername]

Am I going to have to start watching OUAT now that Fables is almost over?

[Mattias]

Am I going to have to start watching OUAT now that Fables is almost over?

The Comic or the video game? Because I thought the comic was still going strong?